[Opensim-users] Timezone
Gudule Lapointe
gudule at spekuloos.be
Sat Apr 21 15:21:09 UTC 2012
We added a patch to the Mantis.
- Server tries to send Pacific Time daylight saving status to the client, whatever timezone the system is.
- If failed, falls back to system time zone and logs a warning.
- It does not affect client-side UTC settings like in Imprudence
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5972
I strongly think this is the way to go until custom timezone is actually implemented. And i'd love it to be implemented.
--
http://www.speculoos.net/
secondlife://speculoos.net:8002/
Speculoos, the belgian cookie-flavored metaverse
Le 19 avr. 2012 à 01:09, Gudule Lapointe a écrit :
> My tests and the examples (including OSGrid time) show that the server DO control DST setting, while it does not control the other part of the timezone.
>
> And this is why it's a bug. If the client is expecting pacific time and relies on the server for DST, DST has to be calculated on Paciifc Time
>
> The "decision" of using UTC is cool, but it has absolutely no effect. I don't know a grid where UTC is the in-world time. Imprudence implements it on the client-side only.
>
> So the server must definitively send the info the client is expecting. Until management of a server-side custom timezone is implemented.
>
> Sending a Hong Kong daylight saving to a client showing Los Angeles time has absolutely no sense.
>
>
> --
> http://www.speculoos.net/
> secondlife://speculoos.net:8002/
> Speculoos, the belgian cookie-flavored metaverse
>
> Le 19 avr. 2012 à 01:03, Robert Klein a écrit :
>
>> We decided a long time ago to settle on UTC as the default timezone and it
>> looks like the Imprudence team added the support to their viewer. Here is
>> the link to the wiki http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Universal_Time_in_OpenSim
>>
>> -Robert
>>
>> --
>> View this message in context: http://opensim-users.2152040.n2.nabble.com/Timezone-tp7477565p7478969.html
>> Sent from the opensim-users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Opensim-users mailing list
>> Opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
>>
>> Le 19 avr. 2012 à 00:51, Justin Clark-Casey a écrit :
>>
>>> I can't remember the details but I think this is because it's not something the server can control - the stock viewers are hardcoded to pacific time even if they might make some change for daylight savings.
>>>
>>> The imprudence guys implemented another mechanism to change the timezone, I think.
>>>
>>> On 18/04/12 22:31, Fleep Tuque wrote:
>>>> I'm not sure why timezone isn't a configurable option in opensim.ini? My campus grid users don't care about UTC or any
>>>> other time zone than our own and what they most need to know is when their class meets.
>>>>
>>>> - Chris/Fleep
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque)
>>>> Center for Simulations & Virtual Environments Research (UCSIM)
>>>> UCIT Instructional & Research Computing
>>>> University of Cincinnati
>>>> 406A Zimmer Hall
>>>> 315 College Drive
>>>> PO BOX 210088
>>>> Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088
>>>> chris.collins at uc.edu <mailto:chris.collins at uc.edu>
>>>> (513) 556-3018
>>>>
>>>> http://ucsim.uc.edu
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:25 PM, Olivier van Helden <olivier at van-helden.net <mailto:olivier at van-helden.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If it's not a feature, it's a bug!
>>>>
>>>> I made more extensive tests and my conclusion is:
>>>>
>>>> - If I set my server on whatever timezone not using DST, viewer would show PST in anycase
>>>> - If i set it to whatever timezone using DST, viewer would show PDT if applicable, PST otherwise (SL behaviour)
>>>>
>>>> This is insane: we use a local setting for daylight savings, and a global hardcoded setting for the hour
>>>>
>>>> This probably means even those using DST will not change at the same time, depending on which timezone they have.
>>>>
>>>> I filled a Mantis about this
>>>> http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=5972
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 18 avr. 2012 à 18:24, Gudule Lapointe a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Not totally exact, Vanish. My tests proved that time info is somewhat send by the server:
>>>>>
>>>>> - On Singularity AND Second Life viewer (where timezone was supposed to be hard-coded), it shows PDT in my grid,
>>>>> and PST in OSGrid
>>>>> -> So, times is cleary sent by the server. For viewers listening to that info.
>>>>> - Imprudence has a setting to choose between PSD/PDT or GMT. If set to PST/PDT, i still get the same difference
>>>>> between OSGrid and mine
>>>>> -> fallback to same conclusion (and imprudence should probably replace "PST/PDT" by "in-world time" or something
>>>>> like that)
>>>>> - If I HG to another grid, my viewer keeps the time from my login grid
>>>>> -> time is set at login time, depending on login server settings
>>>>> - In the source code I see at some place that the daylight setting is evaluated.
>>>>> -> maybe only the use of DST can be set on server
>>>>>
>>>>> Same question is still left: how?
>>>>> -> maybe just because osgrid auth server runs on a machine where DST is disabled?
>>>>>
>>>>> And it raise a second question: who should adjust this settings, me, or OSGrid?
>>>>> No kidding: I just checked in Second Life, and time is PDT now, there.
>>>>> And I noticed several times that when we're in doubt, SL is often the reference.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://www.speculoos.net/
>>>>> secondlife://speculoos.net:8002/
>>>>> Speculoos, the belgian cookie-flavored metaverse
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 18 avr. 2012 à 17:50, Vanish a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> The time is a viewer service, and Imprudence is the only one I know that allows you to change the timezone to UTC
>>>>>> (optionally) all others display PST (or "Second-Life-time", as it's come to be called).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've looked at but not found a solution!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just noted: for a same instance of OpenSimulator (standalone), Imprudence displays UTC time and Viewer 3
>>>>>>> displays PST.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GCI
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: Gudule Lapointe
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:36 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [Opensim-users] Timezone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How can I setup grid or region time zone?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I noticed my grid is in PDT, while OSGrid for example is in PST. While my server runs in CEST
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't find settings for that anywhere…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> The Twilight’s Green Illuminate Beam,
>>>>>> This Great ImBalance, that I’ve seen,
>>>>>> That Trees Got Icy Branches and,
>>>>>> The Good In Bad, That God I’ve Been.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tgib.co.uk/
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Opensim-users mailing list
>>>>>> Opensim-users at lists.berlios.de <mailto:Opensim-users at lists.berlios.de>
>>>>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Opensim-users mailing list
>>>> Opensim-users at lists.berlios.de <mailto:Opensim-users at lists.berlios.de>
>>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Opensim-users mailing list
>>>> Opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Justin Clark-Casey (justincc)
>>> http://justincc.org/blog
>>> http://twitter.com/justincc
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Opensim-users mailing list
>>> Opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
>>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Opensim-users mailing list
> Opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://opensimulator.org/pipermail/opensim-users/attachments/20120421/c5d315f0/attachment.html>
More information about the Opensim-users
mailing list