[Opensim-users] Hypergrid Outbound Probs & HG Address Confusion

Thu Sep 22 23:58:25 UTC 2011

Chris/Fleep,
    My understanding of the 4096 limit is that each of the region coordinates you are jumping to must be no more than 4095 more or less than the region coordinates you are coming from.   I've been doing a little testing with hypergrid.  My local regions were originally around 1015,1015.  I had to add a region at 5100,5100 to jump to some hypergrids.  To reach your FleepGrid I added a region at 9190,9190.  Before jumping to your hypergrid I first had to TP to  my 9190,9190 region.  Otherwise I got the message  that the destination is more than 4095 regions away.
   I've been adding hyperlinks with console commands.  Haven't had much luck using dynamic links.
   Sorry - I don't have answers for any of your questions.
- Gary Beck
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Fleep Tuque 
  To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de 
  Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:56 PM
  Subject: [Opensim-users] Hypergrid Outbound Probs & HG Address Confusion

  Hi all, 

  I'm having some trouble hypergridding FROM FleepGrid, though it appears many folks are able to hypergrid TO FleepGrid just fine.  In testing, I've not yet been able to successfully hypergrid out of FleepGrid to any destination, and I'm having a lot of confusion about the 4096 limitation to figure out suitable grids/regions to try to teleport to so I can chase down what's going wrong.

  In the course of trying to chase down the problem, I've got several questions that I'm hoping someone on the list can either answer or point me to better resources for finding the answers.

  QUESTION 1:  I understand Diva is encouraging everyone to relocate their sims to centers less than 4096,4096 and I understand why based on this blog post - The 4096 "Bug": http://metaverseink.com/blog/?p=222  It appears many people are NOT changing their coords to the lower centers, is there a reason why?  If I'm reading Diva's post correctly, the limitation is not going to go away any time soon so I'm wondering why folks aren't changing them to make hypergridding easier for travelers..  I haven't changed them on FleepGrid yet either (9000,9000) and trying to decide what's the best course to take both for FleepGrid and for the University of Cincinnati grid we're about to install.

  QUESTION 2:  If people aren't going to change to lower centers, then don't we all need to publish the region centers in addition to the HG address in order for travelers to know whether they can make the jump or not?  I'm finding http://www.hyperica.com/complete-grid-list/ completely unhelpful as a directory because I don't know the region centers or  opensim/hg versions for most of the destinations.  So when my jump fails, I don't know if it's a problem on my end or because the region was too far away or because it's on a different version than me.   The Hypergrid Mall is another example, http://hypergridmall.com/ - Right on the front page it has the hypergrid address, but no center coords or version info, so when my jump fails, I don't know why.

  QUESTION 3:  I'm completely confused about the correct formatting for a hypergrid URL.  I've seen so many variations!  

  secondlife://domain.com:8002:RegionName
  http://domain.com:8002:RegionName
  http://hg.domain.com:8002:RegionName

  Also not sure about proper formatting for region names with spaces in them, is a "%20" required or not?  Which of the following is correct?

  http://domain.com:8002:Region%20Name
  http://domain.com:8002:Region Name
  http://domain.com:8002: Region Name

  QUESTION 4:  FleepGrid is running OpenSim 0.7.1 Release (interface version 7) and FleepGrid Plaza is centered at 9000,9000 currently, but I also have a Hypergate region at 5000,5000 and 13000,13000.  If you're running a compatible version of opensim and theoretically I SHOULD be able to hypergrid to your destination, can you reply with the address so I can give it a try on a known "should work" region?  I'm finding so many broken addresses and links and things I'm going crazy trying to figure out what's wrong with hypergridding out.

  ................

  I've reviewed the wiki pages http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Hypergrid and http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Installing_and_Running_Hypergrid but I'm obviously still confused about some things.   

  Thanks in advance for your thoughts or suggestions, and sorry if I'm behind the curve..

  - Chris/Fleep

  Chris M. Collins (SL: Fleep Tuque)
  Project Manager, UC Second Life 
  UCit Instructional & Research Computing
  University of Cincinnati 
  406E Zimmer Hall
  PO Box 210088
  Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088
  (513)556-3018
  chris.collins at uc.edu

  http://www.uc.edu/ucit/learningtools/secondlife.html

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