[Opensim-users] the concept of "visitor"

[Toni Alatalo]

John Mieske kirjoitti:
> why not add a PHP file that does this all for you ?  Example : They 
> click a button that says Visitor John. It gives them a temp user and 
> PW with full instructions to their e-mail. They log in. Now the timer 
> on the PHP can delete the temp user and PW after 24 hours. You

BTW I happened to do independently a first very simple implementation of 
this on Monday, but integrated to the Naali viewer so that visitor / 
anon login to a preconfigured world is just click of a single button - 
no need to know anything about usernames or passwords or servers or 
anything. Was fun to see this discussion here after had implemented it :)

That works by the button handler in viewer fetching a temp / anon 
account with http, and logging in with that. It works in trunk now (also 
on linux) and is released hopefully later today in Naali 0.1 rc1 so you 
can test, the sources are in our google code repo -- i can give the 
direct pointers if someone is curious.

The target demo server is just a standalone with auth off with no other 
usage, so can be reseted if there becomes cruft etc. We are certainly 
interested in this more advanced solutions that have been outlined here, 
where could mix actual authenticated and such visitor accounts in the 
same worlds well enough.

~Toni
> can even have a php that refreshes every hour that checks the database 
> and removes the temp users that has no need to be there. Make sure you 
> create a seperate database for the time limit so that it wont have to 
> be added to the MAIN SQL database. If the "extra" SQL databse has the 
> name and user's time stamp ready for deletion then it removes it from 
> the MAIN database for the name and PW and then goes back to the temp 
> and removes it there too. So two databases with name and PW to show 
> which is fake.
>
> This can be done in many ways. Just a thought.
>
> John Mieske / Sonya Penucca
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Paul Fishwick <fishwick at cise.ufl.edu 
> <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu>> wrote:
>
>     I would like to open up one of our worlds to the general public by
>     allowing people
>     to log in as visitors. This is related to the "anonymous login"
>     and has
>     been discussed
>     in various forms, but here is the concept - not sure if anything
>     exists
>     yet in trunk to
>     support this:
>
>     1. A user logs in using whatever name they want. If authentication is
>     turned off, this is
>       no problem. However, what would be ideal is that when the user logs
>     off, any trace
>       of them is removed from the database-- they do not persist.
>
>     2. When the user logs in, they have access to the Library part of the
>     inventory, but are
>        unable to load any assets to the server, thus they would have
>     nothing under "My Inventory"
>        or be able to copy items from the Library or the world into My
>     Inventory. The Library
>        would contain all necessities (clothing, basic objects and scripts
>     that they require
>        in the space).
>
>     3. The user cannot build on the island but can run scripts and
>     navigate
>     performing full
>        interaction.
>
>     #1 is not a huge issue since I would imagine that the incremental
>     space
>     allocation for
>     users just means additional rows in the user/agent tables -- shouldn't
>     take up too much
>     room. #2 is a bigger problem - visitors should not be taxing the asset
>     server. #3
>     can be handled by unchecking both boxes next to Create Objects in
>     About
>     Land->Options.
>
>     Are either #1 or #2 possible? They would seem to be a prerequisite for
>     something approaching
>     basic web page services: people come in, visit, and exit while
>     leaving a
>     minimal trace.
>     Builders on the other hand, have special login names that give
>     them the
>     capability to build
>     and load assets (possible with groups?).
>
>     -p
>
>     --
>     Paul Fishwick, PhD
>     Professor
>     University of Florida
>     CISE Department, CSE 301
>     Gainesville, FL 32611
>     Email: fishwick at cise.ufl.edu <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu>
>     Web: http://www.cise.ufl.edu/~fishwick
>     <http://www.cise.ufl.edu/%7Efishwick>
>
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