[Opensim-users] Opensim-users Digest, Vol 40, Issue 30

Sun Dec 19 13:32:33 UTC 2010

Nobody is stopping anyone from starting their own opensim- educators list to pontificate in similar ways as currently happens in the equivalent SL list. The current "official" opensim lists (user and dev) are fundamentally no different in character to those of other open- source project lists and are fine as they are. It's great to see a critical mass of support developing for the opensim platform from the Edu sector and maybe now is the time to create a list specifically for educators to cater to your particular cultural norms rather than (however respectfully) impose yours on others when the prevailing one for this list  (essentially technical in nature- the dev list obviously more so than the users list) is perfectly acceptable.
Now, back "on topic", are there any plans or thoughts to make Mumble part of opensim core in a similar way to freeswitch and vivox or will it stay as a third party module such as  the flotsam groups, ossearch and offline messaging modules?

BTW, a little while back there were a few people here that were having issues with groups and  freeswitch on Linux. I recently went through a bit of a journey getting all this to work ( groups, freeswitch voice, search, offline messaging on ubuntu 64- bit) with the fantastic help of Fumi Iseki at TUIS in Japan using their Modlos Moodle block. if you use moodle and need a simple recipe to get it all going on Linux, let me know and I'll give you the recipe. If enough people get the same successful results (which would give validity to the method) we can publish the instructions somewhere so that anyone can benefit. I want to be sure that others can get the same successful results as me before it goes public so let me know if you are keen to try.

Adam Farrugia
PIER Virtual
Sent from my iPad

On 19/12/2010, at 9:00 PM, "opensim-users-request at lists.berlios.de" <opensim-users-request at lists.berlios.de> wrote:
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> I concur...
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> It's a very closed mind that sees OpenSim development as a purely technical undertaking.  The whole notion of expansion and future directions and capabilities will come from an outward looking stance.
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> Interdisciplinary approaches are always disruptive but ultimately far more generative than single perspective vision.
> 
> Kim Flintoff
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> Sent from my iPad
> Where ever I am I'm close
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> On 19/12/2010, at 1:04, "Damon Hindermann" <damonh74 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Well said Chris/Fleep.  I totally agree.  This group should either be a little more open and friendly or at least make it clear that that it's not.  I find many of the topics covered here have little relevance to me and I just delete them.  It's really not that hard.  But now and then, something comes across that I need to know and that's the value I find in this group.
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>> -Damon
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>> From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Fleep Tuque
>> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:30 AM
>> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Google Earth for the Human Body
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>> I'm not in charge of moderating this list and I will of course honor the guidance of those who do, but I'd like to respectfully voice an objection.   I think the original post is of great interest to the community of opensim users.  
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>> I'm sure I'm not the only one who hopes to see the opensim community continue to grow, and a key component of any community's growth is having communication channels to share relevant information.  In my view, something does not have to be only about opensim to be relevant, useful, or of interest to the opensim userbase.  And yet in the few months I've been subscribed I've seen several users chastised for sharing relevant information.  It's very unwelcoming and surprising to a newcomer.
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>> Perhaps it might be helpful for whoever is in charge to write some kind of introductory description on the opensim-users listserv page specifically noting the strict posting guidelines.  I have participated in zillions of listservs in my time and I don't think I've ever seen one as restrictive as this one about topicality.   I think it's unfortunate and a poor choice if the goal is community growth, but if that is the way it is then that should be very clearly communicated on the listserv sign up page so at least people will understand that this user list is not like other user lists they may have used where broader information sharing is encouraged.
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>> Communicating the forum boundaries in advance is far better than (sometimes rudely) chastising people who are trying to share relevant information in good faith and had no way of knowing that it wasn't welcome.
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>> Sincerely,
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>> - Chris/Fleep
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>> Chris M. Collins (SL: Fleep Tuque)
>> Project Manager, UC Second Life 
>> Second Life Ambassador, Ohio Learning Network 
>> UCit Instructional & Research Computing
>> University of Cincinnati 
>> 406E Zimmer Hall
>> PO Box 210088
>> Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088
>> (513)556-3018
>> chris.collins at uc.edu
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>> UC Second Life:   http://homepages.uc.edu/secondlife
>> OLN Second Life: http://www.oln.org/emerging_technologies/emtech.php
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>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Justin Clark-Casey <jjustincc at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Posts to this list should have something to do with OpenSim.
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>> I don't know of many good lists for discussing virtual world/environment topics in general.  One such is the VirtualWorlds group on Linkedin
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>> http://www.linkedin.com/groups?mostPopular=&gid=744527
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>> (which is members only but anybody who applies is added, afaik).
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>> On 16/12/10 23:08, Patricia F Anderson wrote:
>> I didn't find it spammy at all. It was very interesting, and relevant
>> in that the link discussed how avatars might be developing in the
>> future. Are there explicit restrictions or guidelines for posting to
>> the list? Puzzled, Patricia
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>> (My apologies if this comes through twice - I accidentally posted from
>> the wrong email address.
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>> - Hide quoted text -
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>> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:56 PM, andrew johnson
>> <rossifan2007 at hotmail.co.uk>  wrote:
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>> uh - this is spam - so someone needs to delete this one
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>> ________________________________
>> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:51:17 +0900
>> From: jjwwcao at gmail.com
>> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>> Subject: [Opensim-users] Google Earth for the Human Body
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>> Behold Google's Body Browser in WebGL -- Google Earth for the Human
>> Body (And the Shape of Avatars to Come)
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>> The Google Body Browser is very
>> cool application of WebGL, the 3D graphics protocol that was just
>> integrated into Google Chrome's Beta channel
>> today.
>> To check it out, you'll of course need to download Chrome
>> Beta or Firefox
>> Beta. It displays a human
>> body in full 3D, and at the moment (it's only a 20% complete
>> application), you can move your camera view around it entirely.
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>> Detail and take a look
>> here.http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/12/google-body-browser.html
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