[Opensim-users] How to export to OpenSim
Karen Palen
karenpalensl at gmail.com
Sat Aug 28 19:04:14 UTC 2010
According to Canonical, all you have to do is add a copy to their
"launchpad" repository - I am sure there is more to it than that, and I will
look into it ASAP (like after Sept 6 :-) )
If it is BSD/GPL licensed (i.e. unrestricted distribution) then you can add
it to the "Community Maintained (universe) list and 99% of Ubuntu users will
get it as an optional distribution. AFIK Imprudence satisfies this criteria,
but it is always good to double check.
"Community" stuff simply appears in the Synaptic handler and the user's
"Ubuntu Software Center" together with the 30K+ packages there.
Karen
On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Toni Alatalo <antont at kyperjokki.fi> wrote:
> On la, 2010-08-28 at 09:35 -0700, Karen Palen wrote:
> > Now that I am retired (read busier than ever!) I do all my software
> > under Linux - mostly Python of C++ - unless I am "hacking" some pre
>
> BTW besides c++ written modules, you can also write new functionality to
> Naali in Python as well. In fact some of the default features, like the
> 3d manipulators to move objects in-world, are written in py. That is for
> trusted code that can do anything with the scene and the operating
> system, like c++. We then use Javascript for untrusted code from the net
> so can soon load e.g. custom camera contol code from the world you login
> to etc. like it works on the web.
>
> > I am inspired to wonder how had this would be to add the deb to a1
> > repository and make it really easy to install?
>
> I hope easy, and I hope it eventually makes it to the distributions
> etc :)
>
> > The link to my demo is: http://mars-simulator.hobby-site.org:9000/wifi
>
> Thanks for info, will check out!
>
> > Karen
>
> ~Toni
>
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Toni Alatalo <antont at kyperjokki.fi>
> > wrote:
> > On la, 2010-08-28 at 06:21 -0700, Karen Palen wrote:
> > > After sending this I decided to check the RealXtend web site
> > - its
> > > still claims to be Windows only, but I see from your Wiki
> > that you now
> > > have a Ubuntu .deb file!
> > > Call this a need to update the main web site :-)
> >
> >
> > Yep, we uploaded the .debs yesterday evening so not all info
> > is
> > up-to-date yet elsewhere :) Some of the devs, like me, have
> > done viewer
> > dev mostly on Linux since last February or so, so it's quite
> > mature, and
> > we have a buildbot that verifies linux compile after every
> > commit .. but
> > didn't get around to do release packages untill Jonne managed
> > this week.
> >
> > Glad you noticed, and please do report if you'll try - this is
> > all still
> > pretty early stuff.
> >
> > > Karen
> >
> > ~Toni
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 6:13 AM, Karen Palen
> > <karenpalensl at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > Well there are a couple of reasons why not, most of
> > all is
> > > that I am involved with a bunch of RL things that
> > take most of
> > > my time. The time I do get to spend here I have been
> > using to
> > > bring up my own sim under V0.7.x
> > >
> > > Last time I looked the realXtend stuff (including
> > the
> > > viewers) was Windows only and I use Linux almost
> > exclusively
> > > for my software development now. One of the very few
> > > exceptions is a Win 7 partition devoted to Poser
> > Pro.
> > >
> > > It was Adam's stuff that I was referring to with the
> > OS
> > > "hooks" - I have no idea about the specifics though.
> > >
> > > From what I have been seeing with the current Linden
> > > Lab/Second Life drama(s) I sure wouldn't count on
> > Second Life
> > > to do much of anything for a long time!
> > >
> > > I monitor a web site that specializes in
> > "restrcited" stocks
> > > like Linden Lab and I notice that they haven't even
> > posted a
> > > bid on that stock since March. Even for a pre-IPO
> > stock that
> > > is a very long time without any buyers - there is
> > almost
> > > always someone willing to buy at a steep enough
> > discount. This
> > > leads me to believe that the Linden Lab situation of
> > far worse
> > > than anyone is admitting.
> > >
> > > All of that being said, I do hope to get involved
> > with your
> > > efforts (and maybe do some Linux/Ubuntu related
> > support :-) )
> > > once other things settle down a little.
> > >
> > > Karen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 4:52 AM, Toni Alatalo
> > > <antont at kyperjokki.fi> wrote:
> > > On la, 2010-08-28 at 02:23 -0700, Karen
> > Palen wrote:
> > > > As a long time Poser enthusiast with 14Gb
> > of Poser
> > > based models, I
> > > > count myself as one of those eagerly
> > awaiting mesh
> > > support!
> > >
> > >
> > > This begs the question - why not give the
> > existing
> > > opensource tech for
> > > opensim & meshes a try then?
> > >
> > > You don't have to even install the rex
> > module to your
> > > server if wan't to
> > > try, 'cause the default realXtend test world
> > at
> > > world.realxtend.org:9000
> > > is configured with auth off and allows
> > building, so
> > > works as a sandbox.
> > > We also had a rex-enabled region on osgrid
> > at a point,
> > > perhaps should
> > > put it back on so you can just teleport.
> > >
> > > I've experienced that testing out and doing
> > things,
> > > like putting some of
> > > your favourite meshes to a scene so that can
> > walk
> > > around them, perhaps
> > > attach some fun LSL to them etc., gives you
> > more ideas
> > > of what can do
> > > etc., so can be useful even if you don't up
> > ending
> > > that tech for
> > > production. BTW in rex you can also use
> > skeletal
> > > animations in normal
> > > meshes in the scene (not just avatars).
> > >
> > > > Many of the "hooks" have been added to OS
> > V0.7.xx,
> > > but there is still
> > > > work to be done.
> > >
> > >
> > > What do you mean? I haven't noticed, apart
> > from Adam's
> > > SOG/SOP refactor
> > > in that branch which is partly about
> > changing the
> > > internals so that
> > > things like prims and meshes can be
> > implemented in
> > > modules (ModMesh,
> > > ModPrim etc. that add those components and
> > can be
> > > configured on/off
> > > etc).
> > >
> > > Sure it'll probably be great when Linden
> > finally comes
> > > out of the closet
> > > with their LLMesh support. I've personally
> > been quite
> > > surprised that
> > > it's been taking so long, after they started
> > on it 1,5
> > > years ago and
> > > showing screenshots a year ago and people
> > saying in
> > > early Feb this year
> > > that it'd be out of the private testing in
> > late Feb
> > > etc. But I guess
> > > things are not so easy when you have a world
> > to run
> > > with lots of people
> > > using it etc.
> > >
> > > So am curious if there's something stopping
> > you now,
> > > and we can help if
> > > there are questions or quirks along the
> > road.
> > >
> > > > Karen
> > >
> > > ~Toni
> > >
> > > BTW: after we introduced the mesh support
> > 2,5 years
> > > ago, we haven't been
> > > just sitting on our hands but done some
> > other
> > > things .. like full scene
> > > export from blender & max & maya and
> > friends, a new
> > > modular viewer with
> > > a customizable UI, support for adding your
> > own client
> > > side features in
> > > plugins, and now finally support for
> > arbitary data in
> > > scene entities
> > > that is synched between the server & all
> > clients so
> > > custom functionality
> > > can use it all over .. we'll now improve the
> > APIs and
> > > make new demos
> > > during the rest of the year so can show
> > something
> > > fun :)
> > >
> > > It is all developed in the open, no behind
> > closed
> > > doors dev or private
> > > betas, and is open for suggestions and
> > contributions
> > > etc .. so please
> > > feel free to try and welcome to participate!
> > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:53 PM, peter
> > host
> > > <virtualregions at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > All in all, it's a pain in the
> > A.., and good
> > > support for
> > > > Meshes are
> > > > one of the most users-awaited
> > features in
> > > OS/SL
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
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