[Opensim-users] Opensim 0.6.6 release standalone hangs at 'Waiting for region handshake' (LoginPacketNeverReceived) on other intranet computers

Wed Oct 14 16:53:16 UTC 2009

Hey Kevin,

This actually happened to me recently when I tried using an OpenSim.ini and
Regions files from version 0.6.2 with the latest stable release. I had to
re-edit the OpenSim.ini file and I believe making sure InternalIP is set to
0.0.0.0 in the Regions.ini file too. I wish I could remember exactly what I
did but when you are reeling late at night from screwing up an install and
in reactive mode everything becomes a blur. :)

-Robert

Kevin Buckley wrote:
> 
> Yes - I have tried using the actual IP address for ExternalHostName.  When
> I
> do that it makes no difference to the other PC's but the viewer running on
> the opensim server also now fails at the region handshake.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Marc Adored
> Sent: 13 October 2009 21:40
> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Opensim 0.6.6 release standalone hangs at
> 'Waiting for region handshake' (LoginPacketNeverReceived) on other
> intranet
> computers
> 
> 
> Have you tried using the actual ip address instead of the dns? Maybe
> just maybe there is some reversal issues with the handshake. It seems
> like its sending a request for a handshake but maybe sending the wrong
> information about where to make the handshake. I had the same issue
> when I had used 127.0.0.1 and tried to connect with a remote machine.
> That's what makes me think maybe its a reversal issue. Not sure how
> possible it is for 1 part of a program to have issues reversing a
> domain but not the other but its worth a shot I think.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Kevin Buckley
> <kevin at buckley70.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> I have considered getting the bleeding-edge version, lol.  But I wanted
>> to
>> start with something stable (...).  Thanks for the suggestion though -
>> but
> I
>> DID check my ports with a port scanner.  I'm pretty sure a blocked port
>> isn't the problem though.  It's weird that it works perfectly if opensim
> and
>> the viewer are on the same machine - after all, they STILL talk to each
>> other via the same network protocols - they just didn't go through a LAN
>> card and the lower layers is all.  And there's a LOT of interaction
>> before
>> they get to the region handshake point - so network protocols in general
>> seem to be just fine.  I was wondering if there is anything tangibly
>> different about the 'loginpacket' like maybe it goes to an undocumented
> port
>> or something which isn't covered in the '.ini' files.  I also have a port
>> logger - and nothing looks untoward in that either - but it's kinda hard
> to
>> analyse unless you know the protocols!
>>
>> I haven't yet tried just connecting my machines to each other with the
>> dumbest of routers, rather than going via the Belkin, to see if that
>> makes
> a
>> difference.  Cheers, Kevin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
>> [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Paul
>> Fishwick
>> Sent: 13 October 2009 20:57
>> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Opensim 0.6.6 release standalone hangs at
>> 'Waiting for region handshake' (LoginPacketNeverReceived) on other
> intranet
>> computers
>>
>>
>> I usually run the bleeding edge version in fresh directories (to keep a
>> trail
>> of implementations). This is mainly because of fairly recent changes that
>> do well with 64-bit Ubuntu. Not sure if this will help, but I have found
>> port
>> scanners to be useful during testing:
>> http://www.t1shopper.com/tools/port-scanner/
>> However, if you cannot connect even behind your firewall....not sure...
>> -p
>>
>> Kevin Buckley wrote:
>>> Yes.  And that works - because when my friend tried to login (from far
>> away
>>> - outside the router firewall) I could see that activity on the opensim
>>> window and it got to the region handshake point (actually opensim says
>>> logged-in).  That shouldn't affect this problem though I think - all the
>>> PC's I am using are behind the router (and being explicitly addressed
>> using
>>> internal addresses (192.168.10.x).  Do you have 0.6.6 running OK in
>>> standalone?  Thanks - Kevin
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
>>> [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Paul
> Fishwick
>>> Sent: 13 October 2009 19:53
>>> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Opensim 0.6.6 release standalone hangs at
>>> 'Waiting for region handshake' (LoginPacketNeverReceived) on other
>> intranet
>>> computers
>>>
>>>
>>> Have you logged into your Belkin router and set up your router to
>>> forward
>>> any traffic on the port you are using (9000 for instance) to the machine
>>> where opensim is running (behind your router) ?
>>> -p
>>>
>>> Kevin Buckley wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm trying to get a 'vanilla' instance of OS-0.6.6 running
>>>> 'standalone' on my PC so that I can log-in to it from outside (I have
>>>> a pseudo-Static Domain: i.e. a Dynamic Domain Name from the ISP and a
>>>> service from 'deerfield.com' called 'DNS2Go' that tracks it - has
>>>> worked just fine with various packages for years). Ultimately I would
>>>> like to get opensim running as a standalone-hypergrid implementation -
>>>> but just standalone seemed a good first step. I planned to test it:
>>>> viewer on same PC as opensim, viewer on different PC but within the
>>>> firewall and finally: remote access using my Static Domain.
>>>>
>>>> After a few false starts, I built the release on one of my PC's
>>>> (Windows XP SP2) using Port 9100 (Port 9000 is used already by my
>>>> streaming music system). It works just fine if I use either the 2L
>>>> viewer (v1.23.4 - 123908) or Hippo viewer, running on the same machine
>>>> as opensim.
>>>>
>>>> However, if I run the viewer on different machines within my firewall
>>>> (I have 2 others: Windows XP, also SP2 plus a Vista laptop - both
>>>> tower PC's are high performance Pentium-4's with high-end NVIDIA
>>>> graphics cards btw) it finds my opensim OK (can see the modified
>>>> welcome message during login) but hangs at 'Waiting for region
>>>> handshake'. Then I get the 'may have network issues message' and stops.
>>>>
>>>> I also got a friend to try to login from far away (outside the
>>>> firewall) with the same failure at 'Waiting for region handshake'. I
>>>> am about 50h into this now and have run out of ideas (and hair). I
>>>> have seen in various forums that a number of people have (are) also
>>>> experienced this problem - but so far I have never seen a posted
>> solution.
>>>>
>>>> So far I have done the following things (and they have made no
>>>> difference - behaviour is exactly the same):
>>>>
>>>> - Tried different Ports: 9100, 9200, 9217 and even 9000 by shutting
>>>> down my music server (changing the port addresses in 'Regions.ini' and
>>>> 'opensim.ini')
>>>>
>>>> - Tried 'runprebuild' ('compile' runs with no errors) and
>>>> 'runprebuild2008' (path error for .NETFramework - I have v3.5 btw)
>>>>
>>>> - Tried '0.0.0.0', '127.0.0.1', '192.168.10.100' (the server PC
>>>> internal address) as 'InternalAddress' inside 'Regions.ini'
>>>>
>>>> - Tried 'SYSTEMIP' and '192.168.10.100' as 'ExternalHostName' inside
>>>> 'Regions.ini'
>>>>
>>>> - Tried '127.0.0.1', '192.168.10.100' and even my external domain name
>>>> in the various places in 'opensim.ini'
>>>>
>>>> - Tried running the '/bin' application on a different PC on the
>>>> intranet (so then the viewers work OK on that PC but not now on the
>>>> original server PC)
>>>>
>>>> - Tried 'AllowAlternatePorts' as both True and False
>>>>
>>>> - I have inserted the 'AV rezzes as cloud' patch and rebuilt (that
>>>> fixed THAT issue!)
>>>>
>>>> - I have totally rebuilt from scratch many times
>>>>
>>>> - I have rebooted all the PC's at various times
>>>>
>>>> - Tried router firewall off and on (not that it should matter - router
>>>> is Belkin F5D8635-4v1 btw)
>>>>
>>>> - Tried Windows firewalls off and on
>>>>
>>>> - Searched high and low on the internet (generally and within the
>>>> opensim forums)
>>>>
>>>> All to no avail.
>>>>
>>>> All I have changed in 'opensim.ini' (and 'Regions.ini') are the Port
>>>> and Internet related addresses. The only other thing I changed was
>>>> somewhere I had to uncomment a line to say which version of cache to
>>>> use. Everything is 'out of the box' (I did, of course, copy the
>>>> '.ini.examples' and convert them to '.ini's as appropriate).
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone had this issue and actually fixed it? How?
>>>>
>>>> Any help really appreciated. I'm a professional programmer by the way
>>>> - but I wasn't intending to have to start diving into the opensim
>>>> source to fix this!
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>>>
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>>
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