[Opensim-users] Groups Implementation Discussion (Ai Austin)

[Diva Canto]

Whatever the group system is, just please keep it separate from region 
servers at a healthy distance. I would go as far as suggesting that the 
administration actions in groups should not be accessible via the raw LL 
viewer because it is a recipe for entanglement. Have all that 
administrative work done via web/http, which then other viewers can 
integrate back if they want.

Dr Scofield wrote:
> Ralf Haifisch wrote:
>   
>> *gg*
>>
>> Sure - but unless you have a scalable and robust load balanced topology as
>> e.g. notes/domino, you can avaoid some trouble by having an advance.
>>
>> The trouble to avoid is enumeration.
>>
>> Lindens did a "one fits all" group thing.
>>
>> While security groups are ACL based, they still need some kinda enumartion.
>>
>>
>> So, at the time people had more and more groups and more and more members
>> have been in that group and sending group IM´s, the system degraded.   If
>> this would have been limited to communication it would have been discomfort
>> - but getting the enumeration in groups getting stale, so influence in
>> collaboration, it was a pain in the neck.
>>
>> The advantage would be the goal Charles did outline:  move on to the next
>> frontier.   You could keep compatibility on one (security) while setting up
>> a more advanced (maybe XMPP, wich could be a voice basis as well) solution
>> for the other (communication).
>>
>> Besides that - yes, collaboration needs communication.  Call me old style -
>> I still prefer to be able to access files, portals and print over email
>> @work.  I can still pick up the headset.   So I would prefer to isolate the
>> communication from security for availability means, as well.
>>     
>
> i would argue that we first of all need a proper group system, then we can make
> use of the group system for various other purposes, such as access control,
> modification rights, communication purposes.
>
> 	DrS/dirk
>
>   

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