[Opensim-users] Groups Implementation Discussion (Ai Austin)

Dr Scofield DrScofield at xyzzyxyzzy.net
Mon Apr 6 11:25:17 UTC 2009


Ralf Haifisch wrote:
> *gg*
> 
> Sure - but unless you have a scalable and robust load balanced topology as
> e.g. notes/domino, you can avaoid some trouble by having an advance.
> 
> The trouble to avoid is enumeration.
> 
> Lindens did a "one fits all" group thing.
> 
> While security groups are ACL based, they still need some kinda enumartion.
> 
> 
> So, at the time people had more and more groups and more and more members
> have been in that group and sending group IM´s, the system degraded.   If
> this would have been limited to communication it would have been discomfort
> - but getting the enumeration in groups getting stale, so influence in
> collaboration, it was a pain in the neck.
> 
> The advantage would be the goal Charles did outline:  move on to the next
> frontier.   You could keep compatibility on one (security) while setting up
> a more advanced (maybe XMPP, wich could be a voice basis as well) solution
> for the other (communication).
> 
> Besides that - yes, collaboration needs communication.  Call me old style -
> I still prefer to be able to access files, portals and print over email
> @work.  I can still pick up the headset.   So I would prefer to isolate the
> communication from security for availability means, as well.

i would argue that we first of all need a proper group system, then we can make
use of the group system for various other purposes, such as access control,
modification rights, communication purposes.

	DrS/dirk

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