[Opensim-users] Groups Implementation Discussion (Ai Austin)

[Charles Krinke]

Dear Ralf:

Yes, I have similar joy and angst at each of these discussions and decisions. 

I think the value we can bring on this mailing list is to express some ideas in a helpful way as you have done. By doing this, we can influence the thoughts in a positive direction of those, like Adam, and others, who are implementing group stuff right now.

Having some legacy connection to our hated (and beloved) SecondLife is important.

But, ... of equal importance, is figuring out how to move off into the future with some changes that will be of more long term benefit as we get closer to the 3D internet.

Charles




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From: Ralf Haifisch <ralf at ralf-haifisch.biz>
To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
Sent: Saturday, April 4, 2009 1:12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Groups Implementation Discussion (Ai Austin)

+1

It is very important to use a intelligent open framework AND NOT any
Approach that needs fixed ports etc. like the stone old voice in SL.

I did discuss that with lindens and lost the only realy interested company 
while the hype time (3D is only a 0,1% of my Rl job atm) because the
implemented
technology was not acceptable from a firewall/routing perspective.  It is
nice
for single user or organization with not governance needs.

So it must by (from transport) something that is a holepuncher, similar to
skype.

Using https-tunnel e.g.  

Maybe it would be a nice chance to do the security groups "SL style", so one
with a SL viewer could build/interact inworld.

But if we use Jabber/XXMP for the communication part, a SL client would only
be limited In group communication - BUT could still use a second software
able to talk that protocol.  

Wouldn´t brake compatibility where it hurts.


Cheers,
Ralf

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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 10:32:00 +0100
From: Ai Austin <ai.ai.austin at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Groups Implementation Discussion
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Charles Krinke <cfk at pacbell.net> wrote:
>... I suppose we could go in the IRC or XMPP/Jabber direction,


I would really encourage a Jabber/XMPP approach for group (and indeed 
individual) which open up all sorts of opportunities to link to 
external messengers, buddy systems with geo-location (think of the 
9opportuinities for in world visualisation of collaborative and 
distributed teams), intelligent communications things too. Ai





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