[Opensim-dev] dispatcher interface

[Mic Bowman]

i have no intention of converting to any XML-based format.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:

> Actually, I meant to say "hate". Regardless, I am not complaining
> about the way the JSON is created but more about the thrust i read
> in the undercurrent of the prior emails to make the interface LLSD
> like everything else. That I am opposed to.
>
> Melanie
>
> On 24/12/2014 04:12, Dahlia Trimble wrote:
> > OSD has serializations for XML, JSON, Notation, and binary as per the
> LLSD
> > documentation.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would have to see this become OSD XML (LLXML( because LLXML is so
> >> much wordier (up to 100% size gain on small messages, like one
> >> acknowledgement byte. JSON is superior in pretty much every way
> >> except for enforced typing and I don't judge that valuable enough to
> >> let it double the message byte size.
> >>
> >> Melanie
> >>
> >> On 24/12/2014 02:25, Mic Bowman wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Dahlia Trimble <
> dahliatrimble at gmail.com
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>> Show me a mechanism in opensim that is well layered enough to handle
> >> >>> these messages with both binary & text encoding over both streaming
> &
> >> >>> packet protocols and i will gladly use it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> I used the libomv OSD and it's various serializations. They worked
> very
> >> >> well. I've found the JSON to be quite usable with python, javascript
> >> ,and a
> >> >> few c++ libs I've tried.  I've not had as good of luck with the
> various
> >> >> binary LLSD ports out there though and I wrote my own for c++. I've
> used
> >> >> the various serializations both in TCP and UDP with good success.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I don't think the JSON encoding is the problem. There is JSON all
> over.
> >> > JSON RPC. JSON for submitting simulator to simulator messages. Most
> are
> >> > using the OSD serializer for it. I personally use Newtonsoft because
> 1)
> >> its
> >> > significantly faster and 2) it can re-ify into object classes easily
> >> > (meaning that the json can be converted transparently into an C#
> object
> >> of
> >> > a specific per-message-type class without great big switch
> statements).
> >> The
> >> > reification is convenient for me because it means that the message
> >> handlers
> >> > dont care how the messages came in (abstraction for layering, means I
> can
> >> > replace the JSON encoding with anything that builds the classes in a
> >> > consistent way) & they don't have to dig through multiple levels of
> >> > dictionaries to find a particular value (enforcement of the
> structure).
> >> If
> >> > I want to add a new method of security, I only have one place i need
> to
> >> > change.
> >> >
> >> > That being said... the problem is that there is no consistency in the
> use
> >> > of json. Some times we encode the method in the body of the json,
> >> sometimes
> >> > in the url. Sometimes the decoding happens in a module (see
> >> > NeighbourHandlers). Sometimes it happens in the HTTP server handlers
> >> (JSON
> >> > RPC). Lets just say that we wanted to actually add a method for
> >> authorizing
> >> > messages to ensure that they come from an adjacent simulator... where
> >> would
> >> > you make the change?
> >> >
> >> > Oh... and that doesn't even begin to touch the fact that we have some
> >> > modules using xmlrpc (HG) and some using json.
> >> >
> >> > Justin is right that adding one more is probably not a good idea.
> >> >
> >> > --mic
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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