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correct?
http://www.adamfrisby.com/blog/category/technical/idealist/
Adam, what is the status of Xenki? Is Xenki development now being
abandoned? (now that "Rei" viewer is OpenSource?)
With all these various OpenSource Viewers/Browsers out there, would it be
possible to work on some form of cross-platform compatibility or
"standardization" between the various viewers and the various server
platforms (OpenSim Core, OpenSim + ModRex, and 3Di?)
Mark
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Frisby, Adam <adam at deepthink.com.au> wrote=
:
> TribalServer fell into disrepair I believe, but MW & LBSA donated their
> unique features into a Forge project at least 6 months ago. (look for
> =91Tribal=92 in the projects list).
>
>
>
> 3Di is just OpenSim + a support contract + some extra modules for the 3D
> models and analytics. I believe 3Di runs fairly close to OpenSim releases=
,
> and they do donate code back to core which indicates they would have to b=
e.
>
>
>
> RealXtend was probably the only really =91fork fork=92 where the goal was=
to do
> some things differently; but that got merged back last November, and now =
you
> can run ModRex with OpenSim-trunk. (although sometimes compatibility issu=
es
> with the module do appear on new features, eg megaregions)
>
>
>
> So, I don=92t think there are any major forks anymore =96 3Di would be it=
if
> anything, and they aren=92t that much of one.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> *From:* opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:
> opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] *On Behalf Of *Mark Malewski
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 September 2009 11:05 AM
> *To:* diva at metaverseink.com; Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes open
> source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)
>
>
>
> Diva,
>
>
>
> There are/were quite a few forks floating around out there.
>
> *> What opensim forks are you talking about? I don't know of any, so *
>
> *> please point me to one.*
>
>
>
> http://3di-opensim.com/en/
>
>
>
> You've never heard of 3Di OpenSim Enterprise?
>
>
>
>
> http://virtualeconomicforum.com/content-library/blogging/about/3di_to_sel=
l_opensim_server_software/
>
>
>
> I can think of maybe 4 forks just off the top of my head. I believe
> "Tribal Media Server" (or Tribal Net) and "3Di Server" and RealXtend/ModR=
ex
> were all forks based on the original OpenSim core?
>
>
>
> I understand that RealXtend came back from being a separate fork, and
> RealXtend has now integrated their work back into OpenSim as a module
> (ModRex). I believe Adam Frisby helped with converting RealXtend into a
> "ModRex" module, but what about "3Di Server" and "Tribal Media Server"? =
Are
> those not separate OpenSim-based forks?
>
>
>
> I understand that each of these OpenSim-based Server "forks" uses differe=
nt
> technologies (realXtend/ModRex supports Ogre3D, and 3Di Server supports
> Irrlicht, etc.) I'm not quite sure what Tribal Media Server is (but it
> seems to have been OpenSim-based fork as well that seemed to have a nice
> Admin Control panel).
>
>
>
> I believe "Tribal Server" or "Tribal Net" was the name of Tribal Media's
> Server. I believe it was a fork off of the original OpenSim core as well=
.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.ugotrade.com/2008/05/14/tribal-media-changing-the-game-with-op=
ensim/
>
>
>
> I believe Tribal Media's Server (Tribal Server) had a really nice Admin
> Control Panel, and an easy way to get Tribal Sim servers online.
>
>
>
> As for 3Di server, I believe it supports "Irrlicht" 3D rendering engine.
> (ModRex/RealXtend support Ogre3d rendering engine).
>
>
>
> I don't know all the exact specifics as to each of the various different
> server forks, but I know much of RealXtend's work has been integrated bac=
k
> into OpenSim (as a ModRex module), but 3Di and Tribal Media servers (as f=
ar
> as I know) are not OpenSource, and have not had their work put back into
> OpenSim.
>
>
>
> I don't know all the specifics as to the exact differences between all th=
e
> various server forks, but it would be nice to create a wiki page, showing=
a
> nice comparison chart between Tribal Media Server, 3Di Enterprise Server,
> ModRex, and the native OpenSim Core.
>
>
>
> Just so people can see what features each of the various servers (such as
> 3Di Enterprise Server, or Tribal Media Server, or ModRex) has. They all
> seem to be OpenSim-based. I understand RealXtend is now "ModRex" (as an
> OpenSim module) but it used to be an OpenSim fork.
>
>
>
> It would just be nice to know what features are in 3Di Enterprise Server,
> and Tribal Media Server. (and maybe see a nice comparison chart on the w=
iki
> page showing each of the features between each of the various OpenSim-bas=
ed
> servers).
>
>
>
> Ultimately, I'd really love to see some of the work from 3Di and Tribal
> Media contributed back (as OpenSource) to the OpenSim Community (as open
> source modules for the OpenSim core), just as RealXtend has done (with
> ModRex).
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:02 PM, <diva at metaverseink.com> wrote:
>
> What opensim forks are you talking about? I don't know of any, so please
> point me to one.
>
>
>
> Mark Malewski wrote:
> > */
>
> > Adam,
> >
> > > /**/=85 then if we can get someone to adjust the full viewer, we=92d=
have
> /*
> > */> somewhat of a standard on our hands./*
> >
> > See, now that's what I'm talking about! Me "likey" the idea of
> > standards! ;-)
> >
> > I'd really like to see some form standardization, so that viewers can
> > work on each of the various platforms. In a perfect world, I'd really
> > like to see some of these technologies that 3Di and Tribal Media
> > are/were working on, slowly come back to the OpenSim Community as
> > OpenSource Modules (similar to the RealXtend/ModRex module).
> >
> > That way we just have ONE single OpenSim core distribution, and then
> > have various modules (like "ModRex" or a "3Di" module, or a
> > "Tribal_Media" module) that can be installed on top of OpenSim core?
> >
> > This would seem to make MUCH more sense, instead of all the various
> > forks out there. I really do like the idea of "standardization", and
> > would really like to see Modules created instead of completely differen=
t
> > OpenSim "forks".
> >
> > Then it would be great to see the Viewers designed so that all the
> > various viewers will work with all the different platform modules
> > (ModRex, 3Di, Tribal Media Server, etc.)
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Frisby, Adam <adam at deepthink.com.au
>
> > <mailto:adam at deepthink.com.au>> wrote:
> >
> > It works with vanilla but from my understanding not ModRex; the
> > meshes are handled as Irrlicht meshes if I understand correctly.
> > Synchronising these mesh standards (in both rex & 3diov) might be a
> > good idea methinks.
> >
> >
> >
> > =85 then if we can get someone to adjust the full viewer, we=92d ha=
ve
> > somewhat of a standard on our hands.
> >
> >
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> > <mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de>
> > [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> > <mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de>] *On Behalf Of *Mark
> > Malewski
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 September 2009 9:02 AM
> > *To:* realxtend at googlegroups.com
>
> > <mailto:realxtend at googlegroups.com>; Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> > <mailto:Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
>
> > *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes
> > open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)
> >
> >
> >
> > Nlin,
> >
> >
> >
> > Does the "Rei" Viewer work with the OpenSim + ModRex (RealXtend) as
> > well?
> >
> > Could you please explain the differences between a plain vanilla
> > OpenSim Server, a OpenSim + ModRex (realXtend) server, and a 3di
> server?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank-you for all that you do,
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Anu Mishra <anuranjanm at gmail.com
>
> > <mailto:anuranjanm at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Nlin
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you know if this viewer works with Realxtend server as well?
> >
> >
> >
> > Anu
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/30/09, *Mark Malewski* <mark.malewski at gmail.com
>
> > <mailto:mark.malewski at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > RealXtend,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Have any of the RealXtend core developer's had a chance to look
> > at this OpenSource "Rei" viewer yet?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems to be an OpenSource web-based viewer. It looks pretty
> > cool. Would this OpenSource contribution help RealXtend's
> > Viewer project in any way? Could this viewer be easily modifie=
d
> > to work with BOTH the stock OpenSim AND also work with RealXten=
d
> > & ModRex?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Mark Malewski
>
> > <mark.malewski at gmail.com <mailto:mark.malewski at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Nlin,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank-you very much for the post, that seems like an excellent
> > contribution to the OpenSim Community!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm wondering what type of effect this might have on RealXtend'=
s
> > project development of a new viewer?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Will this "Rei" viewer work with the latest stock OpenSim serve=
r?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:24 PM, nlin <nlin.message at gmail.com
>
> > <mailto:nlin.message at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Today 3Di's in-browser viewer source code has been opened
> > up, as the project 3Di Viewer "Rei". The license is BSD.
> > Please have a look if you are interested!
> >
>
> > Project home page: http://3di-rei.org <http://3di-rei.org/>
>
> > Press release: http://3di.jp/en/news/2009093001.html
> >
> > We're very interested in further development of this open
> > source viewer with the community. Thanks to the
> > IdealistViewer developers, as portions of Rei use source
> > code from an early version of IdealistViewer. Rei uses no
> > code from GPL-licensed viewers.
> >
> > The Rei source code is in git at github, with the main
> > repository at: http://github.com/3di/3di-viewer-rei
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -nlin
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
> >
> >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/realxtend
> > http://www.realxtend.org
> > -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
> >
> >
> >
> >
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<div><p>Adam, thank-you for the response. =A0You seem to know quite well wh=
at all the various groups are working on. =A0;-)</p><p><br></p><p><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><i><b>> So, I don=92t =
think there are any major forks anymore=A0=96=A0</b></i></span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><i><b>> 3D=
i=A0would be it if anything, and they aren=92t that much of one.</b></i></s=
pan></p><div><font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#1F497D" size=3D"4">=
<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-size: 15px;"><br>
</span></font></div></div><div><br></div>Ok, this is good to know. =A0It wa=
s hard keeping track of everything that was going on out there, and I still=
wasn't exactly sure what 3Di was working on (or if it was getting cont=
ributed back to OpenSim Core, or as a separate OpenSim module). =A0I did kn=
ow they were working on an "OpenViewer" (which I'm guessing h=
as been renamed to "Rei" viewer?) =A0I'm still not quite sure=
as to all the specifics of 3Di Server's features.<div>
<br></div><div>It would just be nice to get everything integrated back into=
core (or as OpenSim modules).</div><div><br></div><div><p><span style=3D"f=
ont-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">>TribalServer fell into disre=
pair I believe, but MW & LBSA</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">> donated =
their unique features into a Forge project at least 6 >months ago. (look=
for =91Tribal=92 in the projects list).</span></p><div>I'll need to lo=
ok around. =A0It really would be nice to try and get as many of these great=
things/features updated and integrated into Core (or as OpenSim modules) I=
'm still not quite sure what features 3Di's Enterprise server has.<=
/div>
</div><div><br></div><div>Do we have any contacts over at 3Di that we can t=
alk to? =A0Do they have any plans to "OpenSource" their work (and=
modules)?</div><div><br></div><div>It would be good to have some form of &=
quot;standardization" among the various groups, so that the Viewers/Br=
owsers (Hippo, Naali, and Rei) will at least be cross-platform and support =
OpenSim Core, RealXtend/ModRex, and 3Di.</div>
<div><br></div><div>From what I understand, the "Rei" Viewer is b=
ased on the Idealist Viewer, correct?</div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.adamfrisby.com/blog/category/technical/idealist/">http://www.adam=
frisby.com/blog/category/technical/idealist/</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Adam, what is the status of Xenki? =A0Is Xenki developm=
ent now being abandoned? (now that "Rei" viewer is OpenSource?) =
=A0</div><div><br></div><div>With all these various OpenSource Viewers/Brow=
sers out there, would it be possible to work on some form of cross-platform=
compatibility or "standardization" between the various viewers a=
nd the various server platforms (OpenSim Core, OpenSim + ModRex, and 3Di?)<=
/div>
<div><br></div><div>=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Mark</div><div><br></div><div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Frisby, Ad=
am <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:adam at deepthink.com.au">adam at deep=
think.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div lang=3D"EN-AU" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">TribalServer fell into di=
srepair I believe, but MW & LBSA
donated their unique features into a Forge project at least 6 months ago. (=
look
for =91Tribal=92 in the projects list).</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">3Di is just OpenSim + a s=
upport contract + some extra modules
for the 3D models and analytics. I believe 3Di runs fairly close to OpenSim
releases, and they do donate code back to core which indicates they would h=
ave
to be.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">RealXtend was probably th=
e only really =91fork fork=92 where the goal
was to do some things differently; but that got merged back last November, =
and
now you can run ModRex with OpenSim-trunk. (although sometimes compatibilit=
y
issues with the module do appear on new features, eg megaregions)</span></p=
>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">So, I don=92t think there=
are any major forks anymore =96 3Di would
be it if anything, and they aren=92t that much of one.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Adam</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">=A0</span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
4.0pt">
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm">
<p><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">From:</span></b><span=
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"> <a href=3D"mailto:opensim-dev-b=
ounces at lists.berlios.de" target=3D"_blank">opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlio=
s.de</a>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de" target=3D"_=
blank">opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mark M=
alewski<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 30 September 2009 11:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:diva at metaverseink.com" target=3D"_blank">diva@=
metaverseink.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de" targe=
t=3D"_blank">Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de</a></span></p><div><div></div><di=
v class=3D"h5">
<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-dev] [realXtend] Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei"=
;
goes open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)</div></div><p></p>
</div>
</div><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5">
<p>=A0</p>
<p>Diva,</p>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">There are/were quite a few
forks floating around out there.</p>
<div>
<p><b><i>>=A0What opensim forks are you talking about? I
don't know of any, so=A0</i></b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><b><i>> please=A0point me to one.</i></b></p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p><a href=3D"http://3di-opensim.com/en/" target=3D"_blank">http://3di-open=
sim.com/en/</a></p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>You've never heard of 3Di OpenSim Enterprise?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p><a href=3D"http://virtualeconomicforum.com/content-library/blogging/abou=
t/3di_to_sell_opensim_server_software/" target=3D"_blank">http://virtualeco=
nomicforum.com/content-library/blogging/about/3di_to_sell_opensim_server_so=
ftware/</a></p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>I can think of maybe 4 forks just off the top of my head.
=A0I believe "Tribal Media Server" (or Tribal Net) and "3Di
Server" and RealXtend/ModRex were all forks based on the original Open=
Sim
core?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>I understand that RealXtend came back from being a separate
fork, and RealXtend has now integrated their work back into OpenSim as a mo=
dule
(ModRex). =A0I believe Adam Frisby helped with converting RealXtend into a
"ModRex" module, but what about "3Di Server" and
"Tribal Media Server"? =A0Are those not separate OpenSim-based
forks?=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>I understand that each of these OpenSim-based Server
"forks" uses different technologies (realXtend/ModRex supports
Ogre3D, and 3Di Server supports Irrlicht, etc.) =A0I'm not quite sure w=
hat
Tribal Media Server is (but it seems to have been OpenSim-based fork as wel=
l
that seemed to have a nice Admin Control panel).</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>I believe "Tribal Server" or "Tribal
Net" was the name of Tribal Media's Server. =A0I believe it was a =
fork
off of the original OpenSim core as well.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p><a href=3D"http://www.ugotrade.com/2008/05/14/tribal-media-changing-the-=
game-with-opensim/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ugotrade.com/2008/05/14/tr=
ibal-media-changing-the-game-with-opensim/</a></p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p>I believe Tribal Media's Server (Tribal Server) had a really
nice Admin Control Panel, and an easy way to get Tribal Sim servers online.=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>As for 3Di server, I believe it supports
"Irrlicht" 3D rendering engine. =A0(ModRex/RealXtend support
Ogre3d rendering engine).</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>I don't know all the exact specifics as to each of the
various different server forks, but I know much of RealXtend's work has=
been
integrated back into OpenSim (as a ModRex module), but 3Di and Tribal Media
servers (as far as I know) are not OpenSource, and have not had their work =
put
back into OpenSim.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>I don't know all the specifics as to the exact differences
between all the various server forks, but it would be nice to create a wiki
page, showing a nice comparison chart between Tribal Media Server, 3Di
Enterprise Server, ModRex, and the native OpenSim Core.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Just so people can see what features each of the various
servers (such as 3Di Enterprise Server, or Tribal Media Server, or ModRex) =
has.
=A0They all seem to be OpenSim-based. =A0I understand RealXtend is now
"ModRex" (as an OpenSim module) but it used to be an OpenSim fork=
.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>It would just be nice to know what features are in 3Di
Enterprise Server, and Tribal Media Server. =A0(and maybe see a nice
comparison chart on the wiki page showing each of the features between each=
of
the various OpenSim-based servers).</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>Ultimately, I'd really love to see some of the work from 3Di
and Tribal Media contributed back (as OpenSource) to the OpenSim Community =
(as
open source modules for the OpenSim core), just as RealXtend has done (with
ModRex).</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Mark</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>=A0</p>
<div>
<p>On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:02 PM, <<a href=3D"mailto:diva at metaversein=
k.com" target=3D"_blank">diva at metaverseink.com</a>> wrote:</p>
<p>What opensim forks are you talking about? I don't know of
any, so please<br>
point me to one.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Mark Malewski wrote:<br>
> */</p>
<div>
<p>> Adam,<br>
><br>
> =A0> /**/=85 then if we can get someone to adjust the full viewer,
we=92d have /*<br>
> */> somewhat of a standard on our hands./*<br>
><br>
> See, now that's what I'm talking about! =A0Me "likey"=
; the
idea of<br>
> standards! =A0;-)<br>
><br>
> I'd really like to see some form standardization, so that viewers =
can<br>
> work on each of the various platforms. =A0In a perfect world, I'd
really<br>
> like to see some of these technologies that 3Di and Tribal Media<br>
> are/were working on, slowly come back to the OpenSim Community as<br>
> OpenSource Modules (similar to the RealXtend/ModRex module).<br>
><br>
> That way we just have ONE single OpenSim core distribution, and then<b=
r>
> have various modules (like "ModRex" or a "3Di" mod=
ule,
or a<br>
> "Tribal_Media" module) that can be installed on top of OpenS=
im
core?<br>
><br>
> This would seem to make MUCH more sense, instead of all the various<br=
>
> forks out there. =A0I really do like the idea of
"standardization", and<br>
> would really like to see Modules created instead of completely differe=
nt<br>
> OpenSim "forks".<br>
><br>
> Then it would be great to see the Viewers designed so that all the<br>
> various viewers will work with all the different platform modules<br>
> (ModRex, 3Di, Tribal Media Server, etc.)<br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Mark<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Frisby, Adam <<a href=3D"mailto:a=
dam at deepthink.com.au" target=3D"_blank">adam at deepthink.com.au</a></p>
</div>
<div>
<p>> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:adam at deepthink.com.au" target=3D"_blan=
k">adam at deepthink.com.au</a>>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 It works with vanilla but from my understanding not ModRex;
the<br>
> =A0 =A0 meshes are handled as Irrlicht meshes if I understand
correctly.<br>
> =A0 =A0 Synchronising these mesh standards (in both rex & 3diov)
might be a<br>
> =A0 =A0 good idea methinks.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =85 then if we can get someone to adjust the full viewer, we=
=92d
have<br>
> =A0 =A0 somewhat of a standard on our hands.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 Adam<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 *From:* <a href=3D"mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de=
" target=3D"_blank">opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de</a><br>
> =A0 =A0 <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios=
.de" target=3D"_blank">opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de</a>><br>
> =A0 =A0 [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de=
" target=3D"_blank">opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de</a><br>
> =A0 =A0 <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios=
.de" target=3D"_blank">opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de</a>>]
*On Behalf Of *Mark<br>
> =A0 =A0 Malewski<br>
> =A0 =A0 *Sent:* Wednesday, 30 September 2009 9:02 AM<br>
> =A0 =A0 *To:* <a href=3D"mailto:realxtend at googlegroups.com" target=3D"=
_blank">realxtend at googlegroups.com</a></p>
</div>
<p>> =A0 =A0 <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:realxtend at googlegroups.com" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">realxtend at googlegroups.com</a>>; <a href=3D"mailto:Opens=
im-dev at lists.berlios.de" target=3D"_blank">Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de</a>=
<br>
> =A0 =A0 <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de</a>></p>
<div>
<p>> =A0 =A0 *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-dev] [realXtend]
Re: 3Di Viewer "Rei" goes<br>
> =A0 =A0 open source (BSD licensed in-browser viewer)<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 Nlin,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 Does the "Rei" Viewer work with the OpenSim +
ModRex (RealXtend) as<br>
> =A0 =A0 well?<br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 Could you please explain the differences between a plain
vanilla<br>
> =A0 =A0 OpenSim Server, a OpenSim + ModRex (realXtend) server, and a
3di server?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Thank-you for all that you do,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Mark<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Anu Mishra <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:anuranjanm at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">anuranjanm at gmail.com</a></p>
</div>
<div>
<p>> =A0 =A0 <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:anuranjanm at gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">anuranjanm at gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 Nlin<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 Do you know if this viewer works with Realxtend server as
well?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 Anu<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 On 9/30/09, *Mark Malewski* <<a href=3D"mailto:mark.malewsk=
i at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mark.malewski at gmail.com</a></p>
</div>
<div>
<p>> =A0 =A0 <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mark.malewski at gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">mark.malewski at gmail.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 RealXtend,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Have any of the RealXtend core developer's had
a chance to look<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 at this OpenSource "Rei" viewer yet?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 It seems to be an OpenSource web-based viewer.
=A0It looks pretty<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 cool. =A0Would this OpenSource contribution
help RealXtend's<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Viewer project in any way? =A0Could this
viewer be easily modified<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to work with BOTH the stock OpenSim AND also
work with RealXtend<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 & ModRex?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Mark<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Mark Malewski</p>
</div>
<div>
<p>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <<a href=3D"mailto:mark.malewski at gmail.com" targ=
et=3D"_blank">mark.malewski at gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:mark=
.malewski at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">mark.malewski at gmail.com</a>>>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Nlin,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Thank-you very much for the post, that seems
like an excellent<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 contribution to the OpenSim Community!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I'm wondering what type of effect this might
have on RealXtend's<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 project development of a new viewer?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Will this "Rei" viewer work with the
latest stock OpenSim server?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0
=A0 =A0 Mark<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:24 PM, nlin <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:nlin.message at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nlin.message at gmail.com</a><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:nlin.message at gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank">nlin.message at gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Hello,<br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Today 3Di's in-browser viewer
source code has been opened<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 up, as the project 3Di Viewer
"Rei". The license is BSD.<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Please have a look if you are
interested!<br>
></p>
</div>
<p>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Project home
page: <a href=3D"http://3di-rei.org" target=3D"_blank">http://3di-rei.org</=
a> <<a href=3D"http://3di-rei.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://3di-rei.org=
/</a>></p>
<div>
<p>> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Press
release: <a href=3D"http://3di.jp/en/news/2009093001.html" target=3D"_blank=
">http://3di.jp/en/news/2009093001.html</a><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 We're very interested in further
development of this open<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 source viewer with the
community. Thanks to the<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 IdealistViewer developers, as
portions of Rei use source<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 code from an early version of
IdealistViewer. Rei uses no<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 code from GPL-licensed viewers.<br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The Rei source code is in git at
github, with the main<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 repository at: <a href=3D"http://github.com/3d=
i/3di-viewer-rei" target=3D"_blank">http://github.com/3di/3di-viewer-rei</a=
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Thanks,<br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -nlin<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~<=
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><br>
><br>
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> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <a href=3D"http://www.realxtend.org" target=3D"_blank"=
>http://www.realxtend.org</a><br>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---<=
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><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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