[Opensim-dev] Diva Groups and Offline IM

[Justin Clark-Casey]

Yes, I think this is a perfectly reasonable kind of thing to go in core, as I would regard it as basic infrastructure.

It will be a module in core anyway, and the existing external groups solutions (Flotsam and Simian, for example) will 
continue to work.  I would also like to thank Diva for contributing this functionality - a core groups service is 
something I've wanted to see for a very long time but never had the time to implement.

On 17/02/13 01:54, John Sheridan wrote:
> I'm just theorizing here, but I would think that common components required for interoperability between grids would
> need to go into the core.  Just recently I finished writing my own offline IM handler in c# only to realize it didn't
> save messages that came in from over the hypergrid.  I've yet to dig in to see why, but after pouring over different
> examples on how to get profiles working I'm quickly realizing that there is a need for a common way for all of these
> services to communicate.
>
> Its one thing to have your own proprietary communications formats if you're running a closed grid, but in the case where
> your components need to talk to other people's  - that seems to be a different story.  For example, with my profiles
> module I wanted to create a set of data objects (psProfile, psProfilePick, psProfileClassifieds, etc.), serialize them
> on the sim end, then ship them off to the profiles server and vice versa.  After seeing how other projects out there
> communicate with their server counterparts, it became blatantly apparent that my way would work just fine if it were
> used on a closed grid but not in a Hypergridded environment where it would need to talk to countless other profile
> servers that all likely communicate in different ways.  I'm pretty sure the same would hold true for offline messaging,
> groups, and so on.
>
>
> On 02/16/2013 07:32 PM, R.Gunther wrote:
>> Opensim core ?
>> I hope it's going to be a module, and not in the core of opensim. I have the idea there's already to much in core and
>> not enough in modules.
>>
>> On 2013-02-16 21:07, Diva Canto wrote:
>>> Heads up: after discussion within core devs, the Groups and Offline IM addons I did for D2 are going to be donated to
>>> core opensim. This means that core opensim will have support for these out of the box without having to install any
>>> further components (i.e. apache). They work both for standalones and grids. Diva Groups has the optional HG service
>>> for supporting groups with foreign users. It also implements notices with attachments, something that is missing from
>>> Flotsam groups. It does not implement the voting and accounting features of the viewer (patches welcome).
>>>
>>> For those using Flotsam or Simian Groups, they're all mutually exclusive -- the config decides which one to use.
>>>
>>> The code will be added within the next week. If there are any issues or questions, let us know.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Diva
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