[Opensim-dev] OpenSimulator / Hyper Grids / Region Statistics

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On Feb 20, 2012, at 5:49 PM, Trinity wrote:

> what we need is a central grid manager database that the tpv's use to look up grids in the grid manager that every one can go to to list there grid or sims 

I certainly agree that a TPV grid manager should not be conflated with a region counter or other things.   

For a TPV grid manager I only need my viewer to have knowledge of the grids that I use, not of every grid in some central database.    So the central repository should only be used by the TPV to pick up information when I start typing a grid name that is not currently in its active list.  I would not be a happy camper wading through the entire list if I only use a few grids.  

Agreed about the counts varying wildly.  If I have a machine that is used for something else part of the time but runs  regions on osgrid for 12 hours a day every day then do its regions count as alive or not?   How about if I do the Kitely-esque thing and only bring up some cloud based regions on demand?   What if I had a private region that only I ever visited and then only in special circumstances?  Is it abandoned or not?    I am beginning to think that the entire idea of "region" is rather atavistic.  

- s

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> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Nebadon Izumi <nebadon2025 at gmail.com> wrote:
> this does not seam feasible to me, for one, what if everyone sets it to false, or even 1/2 of everyone sets it to false, it somewhat defeats the purpose, and secondly who runs the centralized operation? and even if we did decide to do this the numbers could be wildly off, it would be very intensive to insure that every region was running we would be polling 10's of 1000's of regions quite often to get accurate counts, I just don't think its going to be possible and I would also have to -1 this idea for being in core, if anything it would need to be a external module and be 100% volunteer practice to those wanting to participate. But i still say the counts would be no where near what would actually be running.
> 
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> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:38 PM, <drwhiet at spacefriends.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi at all ..
> who is/feels "responsible" for the Hypergrid implementation ?
> 
> I have an idea in regards to the last "flame war" for the opensim region
> count
> currently going on on the internets.. Wouldn`t it be a good idea to have a
> true/false option in the openism.ini to e.g let your (Hyper)Grid add +1 to a
> counter
> somewhere, so "we" could get figures for how many Grids and regions are
> online at the moment .. ?
> 
> This could be refinded by e.g. the numbers of regions running on this grid
> etc, so people
> really interested in a broader view or need to make decision "to go opensim
> or not" get a better overview ?
> 
> just a thought,
> best regards,
> Wordfromthe Wise
> 
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