[Opensim-dev] Global identifiers

diva at metaverseink.com diva at metaverseink.com
Sat Aug 28 21:55:36 UTC 2010


Looks like ppl are reading more into this discussion than I intended.

The hypergrid is up & running with all authentication and security in 
place, and so are exchanges of content via HG and archives. What's 
missing is *systematic* global identification of resources. OpenSim 
already does that internally for resolving *certain* identifiers on the 
Hypergrid, but nothing is stored persistently yet. That is going to 
change soon, because 1) I want to make friends & IM work across the HG 
(so, for example, your foreign friend needs to be identified by a global 
ID); and 2) we really need to fix the b0rked "creator" field in OARs/IARs.

This means that we need to write URIs persistently, both in certain 
fields of the DB (which is already prepared for what's coming) and in 
the archives.

So the issue here is really narrow. Assuming everyone agrees that we 
should use URIs, should we add type information in the URI or not? Any 
other thoughts on the *form* of these URIs?


mysticaldemina at xrgrid.com wrote:
> May be good to share what your use case is.  As universal are you suggesting
> an identifier that separate, potentially un-trusted domains, would use to
> identify the same person?
> 
> Is so I don't think you can do that with two parties, you need at least one
> more party to validate that they are the same person, like how we do with
> SSL certificates, or with some kind of authentication, like you send me an
> email address which gets me to a profile, but I still need to enter in a
> password or something to get access to that profile.
> 
> M.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Ai Austin
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 4:59 PM
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Global identifiers
> 
> diva wrote:
>> I'm about to introduce global identifiers, so that I can make friends
>> and IM work on the hypergrid, and would like feedback on the best form
>> of these identifiers.
> 
>> Here are some options:
>> ... Thoughts?
> 
> 
> A couple of thoughts and observations Diva...
> 
> Could the taxonomy of "types" you use cause problems if the chosen 
> 1-1 mapping for a UUID is not felt to work well i future.
> 
> "user" is also perhaps a different notion to a specific "avatar"
> 
> It would be nice if any UUID in a URI you use can be resolved (e.g. 
> to the avatar name) by any host that has the mapping (like the 
> distributed nature of DNS works), so its not dependent on the host 
> continuing to exist, or to be up at the time information on the 
> avatar is sought.
> 
> AS an example, we have shifted our data bases between machines and 
> have done so 3 or 4 times since we started running OpenSim, carrying 
> the UUIDs of avatars (and the UIIDs of regions we use) forwards to 
> the new data bases.
> 
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