[Opensim-dev] Welcome, Avatar!

Ike Hyx ike.hyx at gmail.com
Sat Aug 21 19:08:46 UTC 2010 

I have to agree with Diva. I am actually putting Powered by OpenSim 0.7.0.1 in that area. Now I just have to find a place for the logo in the Wifi pages. 

Sent from my iPhone4

On Aug 21, 2010, at 12:04 PM, diva at metaverseink.com wrote:

> Diverging here.
> The config var exists for a reason: so that ppl can express a customized welcome message when users login to their world. It's there. Use it.
> 
> The issue that Ai raised was what the out-of-the-box, default message should be. He happened to propose the term OpenSim in it, and that's a strong -1 on my part, because the default should not give any suggestion to end users that they are "logging in to OpenSim" -- there is no such thing!
> 
> We can't control what world operators put on that string, but I would strongly suggest that they do NOT put "Welcome to OpenSim!" -- pretty please. Put something else. And if the issue here is giving credit to the OpenSim project, something that's appreciated but not required, then the correct way of expressing it is "Powered by OpenSim" or something to that effect.
> 
> Jor3l Boa wrote:
>> You can always check the about tab and get that info ..if I want to say is a grid, standalone, hypergrid I can do it in different ways besides the welcome message and before the users log in (registration page e.g).. and for me, its a welcome message. :)
>> 2010/8/21 Melanie <melanie at t-data.com <mailto:melanie at t-data.com>>
>>    A rather presumptuous statement to make. In both parts. First of
>>    all, users may very well care what they're logging into, and it may
>>    not be OpenSim. In fact, there are several spins out there that have
>>    diverged beyond merging and can't properly be called OpenSim anymore.
>>    Melanie
>>    Jor3l Boa wrote:
>>     > -1, I do not think the user cares about the architecture being
>>    used and it
>>     > is obviously opensim
>>     >
>>     > 2010/8/21 <diva at metaverseink.com <mailto:diva at metaverseink.com>>
>>     >
>>     >> <3 it!
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >> Rich White wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >>> Here is a chicklet icon perhaps to get the ball rolling:
>>     >>> http://twitpic.com/2gue0y
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> ====
>>     >>>
>>     >>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:47 AM,  <diva at metaverseink.com
>>    <mailto:diva at metaverseink.com>> wrote:
>>     >>>
>>     >>>> P.S. For people who want to give credit to the project, the
>>    "correct" way
>>     >>>> of
>>     >>>> expressing it is
>>     >>>> "Powered by OpenSim".
>>     >>>> At some point it would be nice to have a logo with those words
>>    in it.
>>     >>>> Examples:
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>    http://www.google.com/images?q=powered+by+apache&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=5eVvTPSNMYK2sAPu2cCXAg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQsAQwAA&biw=1306&bih=933
>>    <http://www.google.com/images?q=powered+by+apache&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=5eVvTPSNMYK2sAPu2cCXAg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQsAQwAA&biw=1306&bih=933>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>    http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1306&bih=933&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=powered+by+CentOS&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
>>    <http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1306&bih=933&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=powered+by+CentOS&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>> diva at metaverseink.com <mailto:diva at metaverseink.com> wrote:
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>> -1 on this.
>>     >>>>> I'm generally reluctant in using the term "OpenSim" for
>>    anything other
>>     >>>>> than the name of this project. It's bad enough that bloggers
>>    and the
>>     >>>>> public
>>     >>>>> keep confusing the project with its uses, let's not give any more
>>     >>>>> suggestions in that direction. OpenSim is the infrastructure
>>    project,
>>     >>>>> not
>>     >>>>> its uses. The users of OpenSim are the world operators, not
>>    the people
>>     >>>>> who
>>     >>>>> login to these worlds.
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>> In other words, when people login to an OpenSim-based world
>>    they are not
>>     >>>>> "logging in to OpenSim"; they are logging in to a world that
>>    someone
>>     >>>>> runs
>>     >>>>> based on OpenSim. This may seem like an insignificant
>>    distinction, but
>>     >>>>> it's
>>     >>>>> not, it's huge.
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>> So let's leave it with the generic message that is has now.
>>    The config
>>     >>>>> var
>>     >>>>> is there for people to customize it.
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>> Ai Austin wrote:
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>>> In a recent commit by Justin he suggested that if a change
>>    was made to
>>     >>>>>> the default viewer welcome message, it would be useful to
>>    get the
>>     >>>>>> thoughts
>>     >>>>>> of others first. I do appreciate that most folks will alter
>>    the string
>>     >>>>>> anyway, but it is useful out of the box to have useful
>>    messages. And I
>>     >>>>>> had
>>     >>>>>> suggested a change to help differentiate things a bit in an
>>    immediately
>>     >>>>>> visible form at the user end, and to brand the system in the
>>    default.
>>     >>>>>>  Can I
>>     >>>>>> suggest this change and see what others think?
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>> Opensim.ini.example         "Welcome to OpenSim"
>>     >>>>>> Robust.ini.example            "Welcome to OpenSim Grid"
>>     >>>>>> Robust.HG.ini.example       "Welcome to OpenSim Hypergrid"
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>> This would have the nice effect of differentiating which
>>    [Architecture]
>>     >>>>>> is being used immediately.
>>     >>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>     >>>>>> Opensim-dev mailing list
>>     >>>>>> Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>>    <mailto:Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
>>     >>>>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
>>     >>>>>>
>>     >>>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>     >>>>> Opensim-dev mailing list
>>     >>>>> Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>>    <mailto:Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
>>     >>>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
>>     >>>>>
>>     >>>>>  _______________________________________________
>>     >>>> Opensim-dev mailing list
>>     >>>> Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de <mailto:Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
>>     >>>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>  _______________________________________________
>>     >> Opensim-dev mailing list
>>     >> Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de <mailto:Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
>>     >> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
>>     >>
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >
>>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     >
>>     > _______________________________________________
>>     > Opensim-dev mailing list
>>     > Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de <mailto:Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
>>     > https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
>>    _______________________________________________
>>    Opensim-dev mailing list
>>    Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de <mailto:Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
>>    https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> _______________________________________________
>> Opensim-dev mailing list
>> Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
> _______________________________________________
> Opensim-dev mailing list
> Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

More information about the Opensim-dev mailing list