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Sat Aug 21 17:55:51 UTC 2010

Just my 2.2 cents:  I can see where this is going to head down the path of  
Linux distros and nomenclature - Ubuntu vs Debian?  Ubuntu IS Debian!   
Ubuntu has the mass appeal and cool branding which moves it into its own  
marketing slot.  Only developers see past (or through) the landscaping  
around the kernels.  I admit I prefer the idea of OpenSim being treated  
more like the discreet platform it is: "Powered by OpenSim = powered by  
Linux, or Intel Inside".  I know it's not exactly the same comparison, but  
at least it anchors the OpenSim framework and places the responsibility of  
derivative branding on their respective dev groups.

Sorry to ramble about non-technical issues, but I see, down the road, the  
complex branching and perhaps favoritism of this project as it continues  
to grow and It would be nice to be able to point back at something and say  
"[insert name here] is the basis of everything".

Take care, all.

Jason

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:42:56 -0500, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:

> A rather presumptuous statement to make. In both parts. First of
> all, users may very well care what they're logging into, and it may
> not be OpenSim. In fact, there are several spins out there that have
> diverged beyond merging and can't properly be called OpenSim anymore.
>
> Melanie
>
> Jor3l Boa wrote:
>> -1, I do not think the user cares about the architecture being used and  
>> it
>> is obviously opensim
>>
>> 2010/8/21 <diva at metaverseink.com>
>>
>>> <3 it!
>>>
>>>
>>> Rich White wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is a chicklet icon perhaps to get the ball rolling:
>>>> http://twitpic.com/2gue0y
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ====
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 9:47 AM,  <diva at metaverseink.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> P.S. For people who want to give credit to the project, the  
>>>>> "correct" way
>>>>> of
>>>>> expressing it is
>>>>> "Powered by OpenSim".
>>>>> At some point it would be nice to have a logo with those words in it.
>>>>> Examples:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.google.com/images?q=powered+by+apache&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=5eVvTPSNMYK2sAPu2cCXAg&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQsAQwAA&biw=1306&bih=933
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&biw=1306&bih=933&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=powered+by+CentOS&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> diva at metaverseink.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -1 on this.
>>>>>> I'm generally reluctant in using the term "OpenSim" for anything  
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> than the name of this project. It's bad enough that bloggers and the
>>>>>> public
>>>>>> keep confusing the project with its uses, let's not give any more
>>>>>> suggestions in that direction. OpenSim is the infrastructure  
>>>>>> project,
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> its uses. The users of OpenSim are the world operators, not the  
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> login to these worlds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, when people login to an OpenSim-based world they  
>>>>>> are not
>>>>>> "logging in to OpenSim"; they are logging in to a world that someone
>>>>>> runs
>>>>>> based on OpenSim. This may seem like an insignificant distinction,  
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> not, it's huge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So let's leave it with the generic message that is has now. The  
>>>>>> config
>>>>>> var
>>>>>> is there for people to customize it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ai Austin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a recent commit by Justin he suggested that if a change was  
>>>>>>> made to
>>>>>>> the default viewer welcome message, it would be useful to get the
>>>>>>> thoughts
>>>>>>> of others first. I do appreciate that most folks will alter the  
>>>>>>> string
>>>>>>> anyway, but it is useful out of the box to have useful messages.  
>>>>>>> And I
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> suggested a change to help differentiate things a bit in an  
>>>>>>> immediately
>>>>>>> visible form at the user end, and to brand the system in the  
>>>>>>> default.
>>>>>>>  Can I
>>>>>>> suggest this change and see what others think?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Opensim.ini.example         "Welcome to OpenSim"
>>>>>>> Robust.ini.example            "Welcome to OpenSim Grid"
>>>>>>> Robust.HG.ini.example       "Welcome to OpenSim Hypergrid"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This would have the nice effect of differentiating which  
>>>>>>> [Architecture]
>>>>>>> is being used immediately.
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