[Opensim-dev] C# 3.0 vs .Net 2

Stefan Andersson stefan at tribalmedia.se
Thu Mar 26 07:44:50 UTC 2009


Could anybody actually using VS 2005 comment on whether installing the Orcas CTP would solve this?

 

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=1E902C21-340C-4D13-9F04-70EB5E3DCEEA&displaylang=en

 

This is the community preview of the C# 3 extensions, made available as an extension to VS 2005.

Best regards,
Stefan Andersson
Tribal Media AB



 
> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 01:27:42 -0400
> From: teravus at gmail.com
> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] C# 3.0 vs .Net 2
> 
> Our issue here isn't mono support :) Mono has 3.0 support since
> 1.9.1. It's our support of Visual Studio 2005 as a build tool.
> 
> Visual Studio 2005 is the tool that doesn't understand code in C# 3.0 :).
> 
> Visual Studio 2008 will generate a 2.0 assembly from 3.0 code.
> Visual Studio 2005 will fail to build.
> 
> As far as I really know.. the only reason to support Visual Studio
> 2005 right now is for people who have Visual Studio 2005 Standard,
> Pro, or Team licenses. Visual Studio 2008 Express is freely
> downloadable and available and Mono is quite happy with 3.0 syntax
> 
> Sincerely
> 
> Teravus
> 
> On 3/26/09, Frisby, Adam <adam at deepthink.com.au> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > If we consider a shift to .NET 3, I’d like to also propose utilizing the new
> > Socket members that .NET 3 introduced – there is some in there for high
> > performance ASync socketing which perform significantly better than previous
> > ones in the kinds of situations we employ.
> >
> >
> >
> > (As long as Mono 2.0.2 has those implemented of course – but it shouldn’t be
> > hard for the, they could at least just make them a splint to the old
> > methods)
> >
> >
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> > [mailto:opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of
> > Ruud Lathrop
> > Sent: Wednesday, 25 March 2009 11:34 AM
> > To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] C# 3.0 vs .Net 2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Visual Studio 2005 is using .NET 2.0/C# 2, only with some extending can you
> > use some .NET 3/C# 3 features (WCF is the best known).
> >
> > It seems that Visual Studio 2008 is doing some tricks for you when you have
> > a .NET 2.0 project, but use .NET 3/3.5 syntax. Like this:
> >
> > public string Test { get; set; }
> >
> > Just works in a .NET 2.0 project, same with lambda, while it is .NET 3/ C# 3
> > specs
> >
> > Ruud
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Teravus Ovares <teravus at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The problem with Lamda Expressions isn't compiling to IL 2.0.. it's
> > compiling in Visual Studio 2005. Visual Studio 2005 will not compile
> > Lamda Expressions at all.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Teravus
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/25/09, Sean Dague <sdague at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Stefan Andersson wrote:
> > > > Yo.
> > > >=20
> > > > =20
> > > >=20
> > > > Feeling a bit stupid here, but just realized that many C# 3.0 features =
> > > (lambda expressions and inferred types, for example) compiles just fine t=
> > > o the .Net 2 IL, so in practise, it can be used if the installed csc supp=
> > > orts it.
> > > >=20
> > > > =20
> > > >=20
> > > > What I'm saying is that we can probably start using some C# 3.0 feature=
> > > s already even on mono (I guess) without moving from .Net 2.0. Question i=
> > > s, what features?
> > > >=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Could any mono person have a look at what C# 3.0 constructs are actuall=
> > > y backwards compatible with .Net 2.0 on mono?
> > >
> > > One approach would be to make a new unit test that used some of those
> > > features, then it would be easy for people to test with their
> > > environment. I suspect mono 1.9.1 is still going to have issues, and we
> > > haven't committed to dumping it yet (as that's what is shipping in the
> > > latest stable release of Ubuntu, which a lot of people are using).
> > >
> > > The new Ubuntu release comes out in April with Mono 2.0.2, so we can
> > > leave 1.9.1 behind in the near future.
> > >
> > > -Sean
> > >
> > > --=20
> > > Sean Dague / Neas Bade
> > > sdague at gmail.com
> > > http://dague.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
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