[Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core

MW michaelwri22 at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Aug 14 09:17:00 UTC 2009


If you can provide the details of those two handlers that need adding to the old servers, I can have a go at implementing them; dependent on how much work it involves.

--- On Thu, 13/8/09, diva at metaverseink.com <diva at metaverseink.com> wrote:

From: diva at metaverseink.com <diva at metaverseink.com>
Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core
To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
Date: Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 5:01 PM

I'm fine with waiting until September before pruning reference 
implementations down to one of each. But someone needs to give love to 
Grid.Inventory, because I don't have time for loving so many servers :-)

The current improvement I'm doing right now (eliminating the need to 
pass the entire inventory around) only works for the new-style inventory 
service. It can easily be made to work for the old one. Whoever wants 
Grid.Inventory to support the simulators' [much more reasonable] needs 
should make the necessary improvements to it. I'll be happy to explain 
what the server needs to do -- 2 additional service handlers. I still 
haven't pushed my local commits, and I can wait a little bit for a 
Grid.InventoryServer lover to step up and volunteer. But I don't think 
it's reasonable to hold this improvement until September; I already have 
it, and it's almost ready to be pushed out to grids out there. Passing 
thousands of inventory items upon region crossings and TPs is probably 
one of the worst things in OpenSim right now, and needs fixing.


MW wrote:
> I'm fine with the AssetInventoryServer being removed as soon as possible 
> because I don't think anyone uses it.
> 
> But believe we should at least wait a couple of more weeks before the 
> Grid.InventoryServer
> and Grid.AssetServer are removed, so that everyone gets a chance to have 
> their say/vote. As a number of people are on vacation around this time.
> 
> Personally as long as the ROBUST servers are fully tested on multiple 
> grids that have a quite heavy load/userbase, then I'm okay with removing 
> the old servers, as long as there is total agreement; I know a few 
> people have said they don't want to swap to ROBUST.
> 
> 
> --- On *Tue, 11/8/09, Frisby, Adam /<adam at deepthink.com.au>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>     From: Frisby, Adam <adam at deepthink.com.au>
>     Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core
>     To: "opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de" <opensim-dev at lists.berlios..de>
>     Date: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009, 10:09 PM
> 
>     Please do. I'd like a 0.6.X release shortly after every
>     networkinterface version change if possible - since it makes compat
>     with the latest stable release always a headache.
> 
>     Adam
> 
>      > -----Original Message-----
>      > From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de
>     </mc/compose?to=opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de>
>     [mailto:opensim-dev-
>      > bounces at lists.berlios.de
>     </mc/compose?to=bounces at lists.berlios.de>] On Behalf Of Justin
>     Clark-Casey
>      > Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2009 12:04 PM
>      > To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>     </mc/compose?to=opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
>      > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core
>      >
>      > diva at metaverseink.com </mc/compose?to=diva at metaverseink.com> wrote:
>      > > Dear devs,
>      > >
>      > > I'm finally changing the way the simulator caches inventory.
>     This is
>      > all
>      > > good, and it's the beginning of the much awaited user services
>      > > refactoring. This requires a few small changes in the inventory
>      > services
>      > > interface, as well as additions to the implementation(s). So...
>      > >
>      > > We now have 3 -- yes 3! -- different inventory servers in core.
>     (and
>      > 3
>      > > asset servers too). I think it's time to make a decision on what to
>      > keep
>      > > and what to drop, because evolving this ecosystem of
>     implementations
>      > in
>      > > core is unscalable.
>      > >
>      > > With this, I'm proposing that we drop the old Grid.InventoryServer,
>      > the
>      > > old Grid.AssetServer and the AssetInventoryServer (CB1). Some
>     people
>      > may
>      > > still be using the old servers, so it's time to switch everybody to
>      > > ROBUST. Asking in the IRC, it looks like no one is using
>      > > AssetInventoryServer.
>      > >
>      > > Comments? Objections?
>      >
>      > Might be an idea to knock out a 0.6.7 first before making that
>     switch.
>      >
>      > --
>      > justincc
>      > Justin Clark-Casey
>      > http://justincc.wordpress.com
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