[Opensim-dev] Legal Issues was RFC Profiles

Andrew Yourtchenko ayourtch at gmail.com
Sat Apr 4 12:41:10 UTC 2009


On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Dahlia Trimble <dahliatrimble at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have an idea that is probably a bit on the hackish side, and I'm not sure
> it would without some experimentation but I believe it could work without
> any modifications to the LL viewer.

Yes. Or even do it as an os* function - osAttachInformation and
osRetrieveInformation. Then the folks would be able to code up the
"license stamping" and "license oracle" prims - drop an item into a
license stamping prim, and if you're a creator it will use whatever
script to change the licens. Drop the item into a "item checking prim"
and it will give you the notecard with the licensing info.

And indeed also give the notecard when there are transfers so the user
would see the license.

Or maybe I am over-engineering :)

thanks,
andrew

> Create a notecard containing the license information desired and name it
> "License". Save the notecard. Now take the UUID for the notecard and paste
> it into the description field of the asset you want it to apply to. Opensim,
> noting that the notecard is named "License" and is created by the same
> person who created the asset, subsequently attaches that UUID to the asset
> in a separate database field, and clears the description field of the asset,
> allowing the description to be used for other purposes. When the asset is
> transferred, the asset and the notecard are both given to the recipient in a
> unique folder. Since the UUID is associated with the asset internally to
> OpenSim and not directly accessible from the viewer, subsequent transfers of
> the asset would always include the notecard.
> There may be some problems that I haven't considered with this approach,
> hopefully the community can comment and improve it or come up with
> alternatives.
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Frisby, Adam <adam at deepthink.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> I think attaching license information to inventory entries in the database
>> would be a simple enough tweak. Getting the viewer to display that
>> information is a good deal harder.
>>
>> Any suggestions on that matter I am welcome to hear - the better if it
>> doesn't require us to modify client code.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: opensim-dev-bounces at lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-
>> > bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Ralf Huelsmann
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2009 2:01 PM
>> > To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
>> > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Legal Issues was RFC Profiles
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > i while ago i went over the legal side of many aspects with 2 lawyer.
>> >
>> > Since this is a multinational question and in many cases has not
>> > exampels
>> > (e.g. no judgments by court) it tends to be a discussion based on
>> > personal
>> > flavor, but not legal facts.
>> >
>> > And yes, maybe there is enough mud for the whole 3D web.
>> >
>> > But to come to the point:
>> >
>> > - I don´t know any country, where having the ability to add a
>> > hypergrid-aware note about the creator and a license (hint, url,
>> > notecard)
>> > would have negative impact
>> >
>> > - I know a few countrys where it would realy help from legal side
>> >
>> > - it would be a clear sign, that the opensim crew takes care about
>> > content
>> > rights and ownership
>> >
>> >
>> > And yes, this only is another brick in the wall of copyright
>> > protection. We
>> > still have RL laws, we still need secure technical system, rights
>> > management
>> > etc etc...
>> >
>> > And spoken in sex beds, I am more afraid about the pure mass von
>> > animations
>> > etc - a few more notecards don´t worry me to much.   :-)
>> >
>> > So - if it is possible somehow, please add it.
>> >
>> >
>> > Just my 2 cent...
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Ralf
>> >
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 18:34:58 +0200
>> > From: "Colin B. Withers" <Colin.Withers at eumetsat.int>
>> > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Legal Issues was RFC Profiles
>> > To: "opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de" <opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de>
>> > Message-ID:
>> >
>> > <B293F9025AB9DF4BBD3BC3403F25DA4501609B5C5731 at EXW10.eum.root.eumetsat.i
>> > nt>
>> >
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
>> >
>> > Won't this also force grids to do what SL do and forbid users to
>> > transfer
>> > their accounts/log in details to someone else (and hence all their
>> > inventory)?
>> >
>> > Why do I get the feeling that we are starting to wade in mud?
>> >
>> > Can't all the issues of permissions, i.e. the three future (next owner)
>> > permissions, and the extra two current permissions (anyone can copy,
>> > anyone
>> > can move), and licensing, all be dealt with in the TOS of the
>> > individual
>> > grids, which then apply to all users of that grid, both creators and
>> > end-users?
>> >
>> > Can you imagine the mess of an object with multiple textures, filled
>> > with
>> > various anims, scripts and notecards (thinking sexgen bed here), and
>> > they
>> > all have different permissions/licenses. Doesn't bear thinking about :(
>> >
>> > Rock
>> >
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