[Opensim-dev] WG: Legal Issues was RFC Profiles

Wed Apr 1 14:05:58 UTC 2009

Actually Mike,
I am going to have to agree with you 100% on this. I think that from a
purely architectural standpoint, the ideal is to have as much of all
functionality in modules as possible :D

That said, I think it will be next to impossible not to keep the source for
some of these modules in the source tree if we hope to be able to deliver a
base set of features via a single invocation of svn/tortoise.

So while architecturally it makes all the sense in the world to keep such
functionality out of core in the strict sense, such discussions (and their
potential implementations) are IMHO, definitely appropriate fodder for
discussion here.

Cheers!
James

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson at hp.com> wrote:

> Wnat I'm actually trying to say is that core should be the framework it
> was intended to be. So rather than put something to support
> communicating license models for content in core I'd prefer to see it as
> an add on in forge.  Heck, I'd really honestly prefer hypergrid was the
> same way. In short I'm advocating putting less in core as opposed to any
> specific way to handle licensing. I'm fine if someone wants to develop
> add-on functionality in forge to do that and if others want to download
> it and enable it on their grid. IMO, thats the right model for
> functionality of this sort.
>
> Mike
>
> On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 06:22 +0000, Ralf Haifisch wrote:
> > Exactly, this and means to identify the creator - even using hypergrid.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:48:57 -0700
> > From: Dahlia Trimble <dahliatrimble at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] WG: Legal Issues was RFC Profiles
> > To: mike.dickson at hp.com, opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de
> > Message-ID:
> >       <ab84ceb10903311548o2146dc26r357bfb928fa1b927 at mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > I don't think anyone is suggesting that OpenSim core should mandate any
> > licensing scenario, but rather should OpenSim provide any hooks necessary
> > for content creators to specify asset-specific licenses beyond
> > Copy/Mod/Transfer. Whether those hooks are functional and whatever
> defaults
> > are in place would likely be an installation specific configuration.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson at hp.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > If as a creator I want to add a notecard to my object indicating the
> > > licensing terms I want to apply when someone has a copy of or rez's my
> > > object I'm free to do so.  Heck I could even get fancy and script it
> > > asking for a click-through menu response or something.  I'm not against
> > > licensing of objects.  Just don't pollute what is IMO an already a tad
> > > over-complex OpenSim core with it.
> > >
> > > Content licensing is a matter for the grid TOS and individual content
> > > providers on that grid.  Not, IMO something that OpenSIM core needs to
> > > worry about or address.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 21:08 +0000, Ralf Haifisch wrote:
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > i while ago i went over the legal side of many aspects with 2 lawyer.
> > > >
> > > > Since this is a multinational question and in many cases has not
> > exampels
> > > > (e.g. no judgments by court) it tends to be a discussion based on
> > > personal
> > > > flavor, but not legal facts.
> > > >
> > > > And yes, maybe there is enough mud for the whole 3D web.
> > > >
> > > > But to come to the point:
> > > >
> > > > - I don?t know any country, where having the ability to add a
> > > > hypergrid-aware note about the creator and a license (hint, url,
> > > notecard)
> > > > would have negative impact
> > > >
> > > > - I know a few countrys where it would realy help from legal side
> > > >
> > > > - it would be a clear sign, that the opensim crew takes care about
> > > content
> > > > rights and ownership
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And yes, this only is another brick in the wall of copyright
> protection.
> > > We
> > > > still have RL laws, we still need secure technical system, rights
> > > management
> > > > etc etc...
> > > >
> > > > And spoken in sex beds, I am more afraid about the pure mass von
> > > animations
> > > > etc - a few more notecards don?t worry me to much.   :-)
> > > >
> > > > So - if it is possible somehow, please add it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Just my 2 cent...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Ralf
> > > >
> > >
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