[Opensim-dev] VERY STRANGE, BUT EXCITING!!

Tue Jun 17 08:29:57 UTC 2008

Terry,

Congratulations to your exciting find. :D

If your database contains information about regions on both grids (which the dump obviously did) then you will have all regions on the map - there is nothing filtering regions on grid id.

Now, if the database dump contains valid info about those external regions, a teleport will succeed, as your internal region will tell the grid services to tell the external region to expect you. I guess you have copied the user and authentication data as well?

(There is probably a big gaping security hole here...)

We at Tribal Media have actually contemplated using something like that to genreate a map including both local and external regions in an intra/extranet scenario.

The problem is the other way, teleporting back into a local region from an external region (the external region can't refer to local ip's)

but yeah, there are some interesting inter-grid scenarios with the SL protocol.

Something for all of you to ponder: The 'Map' is actually a function of the REGION, so every time you bring the map up, it's the region you're ON that decides what goes where on the map - NOT the grid.

This allows us to think of the map as a 'link map' with exit points out of a region, somewhat like hyperlinks or a web sitemap. (The notion of a region as a 'web page' is a darling of mine)Best regards,Stefan AnderssonTribal Media AB Join the 3d web revolution : http://tribalnet.se/ 

> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:23:42 -0400> From: terry at usfastweb.com> To: opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de> Subject: [Opensim-dev] VERY STRANGE, BUT EXCITING!!> > > Hi all,> > I'm not sure how I've done this... but I think I may have stumbled onto > something, although I'm not sure if it is a good thing or a bad thing > but I am excited!> > I have "ACCIDENTALLY" teleported from one grid to another.> Has anyone made any recent changes to move the code towards this > possibility?> > I have a grid setup on my local network which is configured with only > "LOCAL" ip addresses "AND" I have a completely separate grid which is > accessible via the internet.> > I use the "Local" grid for testing while the internet based grid is for > the public.> These setups are completely isolated from each other.> > The only things the "Local" grid shares with the Internet based grid is:> - "SOME" of the region files but these have been changed to reflect > only local ip addresses> - Database info (a dump from the internet based grid was uploaded to a > local machine)> > After starting up each "LOCAL" console and manually configuring each for > use on the local grid (local MySQL and local ip addresses only) I logged > in but noticed that the map was showing some of the regions which I had > intentionally omitted from my local setup. > I thought this must be because the region info, etc from my "Internet > DUMP" which I uploaded to my local database was still showing.> Just to see what would happen... I double clicked on one of the omitted, > but still visible regions and to my surprise... I arrived in that region > with a message saying that this simulator was running a diff. version.> > Confused... wondering how I was in a region that did not exist locally I > started to investigate.> I was on my Internet based grid!!> > How in the world did that happen?? It was a smooth teleport ... maybe a > second or 2 longer than I expected but I was on my internet based grid > now instead of my local grid.> To prove to myself this is what happened, I logged into my internet > based grid with another av and sure enough there I was!!> I logged out of the "NET" based grid and logged into my local grid with > the other av.... where my first av was no where to be found.> I checked the map.... seen the "GHOST" regions... double-clicked on one > of them and "POOF" I was on the "NET" based grid with my other av!> Both grids have their own UGAIM servers, but I apparently "SNUCK" right > through them!> > Not sure if this is significant, but it was rather amusing, confusing, > and exciting all at the same time!> I will try to find out if this will work "NET" grid to "NET" grid next!> > -Terry> > > > > _______________________________________________> Opensim-dev mailing list> Opensim-dev at lists.berlios.de> https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev
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