[Opensim-dev] Groups and using our sims more

[Kyle Hamilton]

Erm...

why can't we implement XMPP's group, messaging, and presence
notifications?  It might break backward compatibility with the current
MessageServer, but it seems to be essentially already a solved
problem.

XMPP also has the added benefit that anyone can be a server on the
XMPP network.  (In fact, I think I like this idea better than DHT, now
that I think about it.)

-Kyle H

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Dahlia Trimble <dahliatrimble at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we need to be cautious here and consider the possible growth before
> just implementing the first thing that comes to mind. LL has certainly had
> difficulties with group chat as concurrency increases (although they are
> quite silent about why this happens). When we get to hundreds, thousands,
> perhaps even millions of concurrent online users then any deficiencies in
> the original design may come back to haunt us. Despite the opinions of some
> I do believe it is possible to have functional real time chat with millions
> of online users, there are networks that demonstrate capabilities similar to
> this already in existence, such as real time financial information networks.
> IRC with it's multiple star server node design may also provide some insight
> we can leverage. Whatever comes about, it seems multiple hosts will be
> required for more than just the few users that OSGrid sees at any one time.
> Some sort of P2P design may be workable if well thought out. I also suspect
> that presence tracking may be a difficult problem and should be considered
> upfront.
>
> On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Charles Krinke <cfk at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>> We are at the point where I believe some modest group implementation would
>> help us move along significantly. Particularly, if our group implmentation
>> had HyperGrid notions are were grid-agnostic.
>>
>> We spend a lot of time on IRC these days and are missing the chance to use
>> our sims more.
>>
>> If we had even a modest implementation of groups, then it would be
>> possible for folks to be testing building & scripting and our IRC activities
>> could, in some measure, move over to a "HyperGrid Group Chat".
>>
>> I would like to encourage us to think about this and see if there is a way
>> to begin some modest implementation.
>>
>> Charles
>>
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