[Opensim-dev] future rexviewer merger

James Stallings II james.stallings at gmail.com
Fri Dec 5 18:05:46 UTC 2008


LOL an ESPECIALLY good idea given they are the originators of the project
and maintainers of the core offering :D

Cheers
James


On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Jani Pirkola <jpirkola at gmail.com> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Good idea to involve Opensim-dev, since they might have better ideas. I
> suppose Adam Frisby has already thought how or if to integrate avatar
> storage to Opensim.
>
> One reason for avatar appearance (or agent domain) handling being at the
> same place with the opensim is because in SL this was so. When we move
> towards free 3D Internet (free as libre), then we need to be able to take
> our avatar with us from grid to grid. This means that a grid must accept
> foreign agent domains - and eventually someone would like to run just the
> avatar service.
>
> Best regards,
> Jani
>
> 2008/12/5 Paul Fishwick <metaphorz at gmail.com>
>
> I am resending this since i think I sent a message from the wrong
>> email account...
>>
>> ..........
>>
>> Jani
>>  I confess to not knowing the details of the rex viewer source, so please
>> take
>> my comments in that light. However, to me, it would seem more logical to
>> evolve the already existing UGAIM+R services of OpenSim rather than
>> inventing a separate way of handling region and user services. I feel that
>> we may need more discussion with the opensim developers (which is
>> why I am cc'ing them).  If I am missing something in the logic of your
>> revised
>> Rex viewer implementation strategy, please let me know, and thank your
>> team again for its excellent viewer capabilities.
>> In summary, if there is something about the way that opensim handles
>> avatars or authentication, then suggest fixes to this via opensim-dev.
>> Yes?
>> If the DB schema(s) need to change, then suggest changes or add new
>> tables.
>> -paul
>>
>> Jani Pirkola wrote:
>> > Exactly, that is what we will do. However some of the services need to
>> be able to run separately from the region or opensim server. The best
>> example of this is the avatar storage and user authentication, which we feel
>> needs to be its own entity.
>> >
>> > Jani
>> >
>> > 2008/12/5 Paul Fishwick <fishwick at cise.ufl.edu <mailto:
>> fishwick at cise.ufl.edu>>
>> >
>> >     Presumably, the "services" aspect can be worked out as a region
>> module
>> >     for opensim? Either that, or the rex team would work with the
>> opensim
>> >     team on the opensim trunk to extend its service capabilities to be
>> >     more
>> >     consistent with rexviewer. That way, developers or users are free
>> >     to update or
>> >     re-build opensim whenever it suits them, and rexviewer would still
>> >     function.
>> >     -p
>> >
>> >
>> >     Antti Ilomäki wrote:
>> >
>> >         Actually that's not exactly the case, viewer modifications are
>> >         important to us, but the avatar portability service (and
>> >         participating
>> >         in world server development as well) is another central feature
>> we
>> >         have. Our system currently allows full avatar portability
>> between
>> >         different worlds and even the inventory works, at least to an
>> >         extent.
>> >
>> >         2008/12/5 Paul Fishwick <fishwick at cise.ufl.edu
>> >         <mailto:fishwick at cise.ufl.edu>>:
>> >
>> >             I could be wrong, but i thought the point was to make Rex
>> >             purely
>> >             a visual client (viewer) and to let OpenSim handle the
>> >             services?
>> >             -paul
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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