<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Thanks so much for all replies. <br>OK even tough my Telekom router has inside a Nat Loopback and I can configure it to forward the ports I mentioned above. It seems Thomas is right. It says to have Nat Loopback but it does not work properly. A friend told me to get a Fritzbox! router. I have hesitated to spend money in a new router not knowing if that will solve my problem. But from your comments, I see it is not opensim and not my configured files, it must be my router.<br><br></div></div>Han Held, yes, that is all set. Works fine. <br><br></div>Unadecal thanks a lot. Your answer to my July email has brought my problem up, thank you :) I have reverted RegionConfig.ini to the one I had before. Internal is now 0.0.0.0 and external is my dyndns domain from no-ip. <br>A while back I installed the Microsoft Loopback Adapter. Even though I
see it listed in my Internet Connections, my router does not see it. Googling
around I have not found a tutorial on how to configure and use it. The
Loopback is still installed. Anyone has a usable tutorial link please?<br><br></div>Thomas in the meantime I got 2 older Fritzbox! routers to test. I will follow what you mentioned and will connect my Telekom router to the Fritzbox! router and see if that fixes the problem.<br><br></div><div>TO DO.<br></div><div><br></div>a) Fritzbox test see what happens<br></div>b) if that doesnt help, then find a way on how to use the installed Microsoft Loopback Adapter<br></div>c) or read around what a VPS is and test that solution.<br><br></div>I will write in here, how I have been doing and if I solve the problem will let you know how I solved it.<br><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:50 AM, Unadecal Arado <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:unadecal.arado@gmail.com" target="_blank">unadecal.arado@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I concur with Thomas's outstanding explanation.<div><br></div><div>In my experience, you might want to try doing the following: </div><div><br></div><div>Make sure that your router forwards all the ports in use, and that Windows Firewall has them open. </div><div>In RegionConfig, set all the internal ports to 0.0.0.0, and all the ExternalHostName to <a href="http://arcanavirtual.noip.me/" target="_blank">arcanavirtual.noip.me</a></div><div>Undo changes to the hosts file.</div><div>Try installing the Microsoft Loopback adaptor and test.</div><div>If that does not work, uninstall the loopback adaptor and try a VPN instead, since it is clear that your router does not support NAT loopback, which is the source of your problem.</div><div><br></div><div>I have used the FREE version of CyberGhost VPN in the past with some measure of success.</div><div>The main thing here is to make sure that all the Opensim-specific parameters are set correctly, test this by having HG users teleport into your regions to verify that it all works, and then work on solving your NAT loopback without breaking your server.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope you can come right with this :)</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 21 October 2015 at 22:59, Thomas Ringate <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tringate@gmail.com" target="_blank">tringate@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>opensim requires the loopback function to work for it to operate
correctly.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Loopback can be implemented in a few ways as has already been
suggested.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>If your server and viewer are on the same computer, using the windows
loopback adapter will solve the problem for you.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>If you are running several servers on an internal network, or you are
trying to connect to a server on an internal network from a client, ”your
viewer” which is on a different machine on the same internal network then the
router must support loopback.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Most new home routers do not support loopback, and even those that claim to
support it usually do not correctly support it. This can be seen using a
sniffer you can see that addresses in the individual packets often get the
address of the router, rather than the actual address of the sending
computer. Fortunately this problem usually results in a timeout and
opensim usually will do a retry and these “broken servers” for whatever reason
often get it right more than they get it wrong.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>If you do not have a router that correctly supports loopback, and you are
not running everything on the same computer your only hope is to use a VPN to
get outside of your local network so the remote router can do the loopback
functions for you.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>In my case I have Verizon FioS which uses the Actiontec modem which does
not support loopback according to the manufacturer and using a sniffer I can say
they are correct. It does not. However Verizon has implemented
something in their head end some how that “tries” to implement it. It
works right about 40% of the time.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I found after hours and hours of discussion with Verizon technical support
that their commercial costumers solve this problem by simply placing a router
that does support loopback directly on their ONT and then connecting the
Actiontec router to that router. That is exactly what I have done using an
old Linksys router and everything is now working fine.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The correct term of the feature we are talking about is “NAT
loopback”. <span style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE:decimal;LINE-HEIGHT:1.2"><font face="Arial"><font color="#222222"><b>NAT loopback</b>, also known as <b>NAT</b> hairpinning or
<b>NAT</b> reflection, is a feature in many consumer routers which permits the
access of a service via the public IP address from inside the local
network.</font></font></span></div>
<div><span style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE:decimal;LINE-HEIGHT:1.2"><font face="Arial" color="#222222"></font></span> </div>
<div><span style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE:decimal;LINE-HEIGHT:1.2"><font face="Arial" color="#222222">I believe your issue is the perfect example of why
opensim requires loopback to work. The address of your local world is
known by it’s NAT address, outside of your local network which is an un-routable
address.</font></span></div>
<div><span style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE:decimal;LINE-HEIGHT:1.2"><font face="Arial" color="#222222"></font></span> </div>
<div><span style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE:decimal;LINE-HEIGHT:1.2"><font face="Arial" color="#222222">By messing with your host file you can fake things for
yourself inside your local network, but the IP address opensim is sending is
either your external IP address or the local IP address. It can not
determine when to send one or the other so it sends what you tell it by a
specific IP address or the domain name.</font></span></div>
<div><span style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE:decimal;LINE-HEIGHT:1.2"><font face="Arial" color="#222222"></font></span> </div>
<div><span style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE:decimal;LINE-HEIGHT:1.2"><font face="Arial" color="#222222">With a router that supports NAT loopback, you use the
domain name and both internal and external users work just fine. If the
router does not support it, and you are only running one opensim server on your
local network, if you use your NAT address, only local users will work
fine. If you use you external IP address only external users will work
fine. If you run multiple opensim servers your router must support
loopback if you expect remote users to be able to move between your regions on
the different local servers without problems.</font></span></div>
<div><span style="LIST-STYLE-TYPE:decimal;LINE-HEIGHT:1.2"><font face="Arial" color="#222222"></font></span> </div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title="hanheld@yahoo.com" href="mailto:hanheld@yahoo.com" target="_blank">Han Held</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:26 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title="opensim-users@opensimulator.org" href="mailto:opensim-users@opensimulator.org" target="_blank">opensim-users@opensimulator.org</a>
</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-users] HG - Not able to teleport back
home</div></div></div>
<div> </div></div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:"Calibri";FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">192.168.2.xxx
is an internal network number; that works fine until you have to connect to the
outside internet, once you do that opensim gets confused.<br><br>I have a no-ip
address which I set up to my actual home LAN number, which I get from
<a href="http://whatismyip.com" target="_blank">whatismyip.com</a><div><div><br><br>
<div>On 10/21/2015 07:54 AM, Isis Ophelia wrote:<br></div>
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<div>
<div>Thank you Garmin. I have configured my internet connection to be a static
internal IP which is 192.168.2.10. Following your suggestion I replaced the
0.0.0.0 with that IP.<br></div>Result is: The console shows:<br>17:48:30 -
[SCENE]: Region Arcana Welcome authenticated and authorized incoming<br>root
agent Isis Ophelia 1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499d0aa06d77 (circuit code
40308<br>2697)<br><br></div>And the viewer tells me: We are having problems
connecting. There might be a problem with your internet connection or the
Arcana World Grid.<br></div>So pity this does not help :(<br></div>Thank so
much though :)<br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<div> </div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 4:24 PM, GarminKawaguichi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:garmin.kawaguichi@magalaxie.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:garmin.kawaguichi@magalaxie.com" target="_blank">garmin.kawaguichi@magalaxie.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Maybe try that:<br>in your
RegionConfig.ini<br><br>InternalAddress = something like 192.168.0.???
(local lan address different for different computers on a same
lan)<br><br>MML
<div>
<div><br><br>
<div>Le 21/10/2015 15:37, Isis Ophelia a écrit :<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite">
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<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
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<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>Stand October 21, 2015<br><br></div>1) router is configured to
forward TCP and UDP Ports 9000-9006<br></div>2) windows firewall Inbound
Rule TPC ports 9000-9006 and UDP Ports 9000-9006 for diva-r25950 ->
Opensim.exe<br></div>3) Dyndns noip installed software that will update my
external IP each time it changes<br></div>4) Hosts file:
127.0.0.1 <a href="http://arcanavirtual.noip.me" target="_blank">arcanavirtual.noip.me</a><br></div>This add-on in
the host file is recommended from Diva Canto in the Instructions file,
when diva opensim and viewer are installed in the same PC. When I remove
the line from the Hosts file, I am not able to connect to my Standalone
with any viewer installed in my PC.<br><br></div>Attached MyWorld.ini and
RegionConfig.ini<br><br></div>
<div>In the RegionConfig.ini the line: ExternalHostName = "SYSTEMIP"
replacing SYSTEMIP with my external domain does not make any
difference.<br></div>
<div> </div>With these configurations, I can connect to my
Standalone. I can work in my 6 regions. I can hyperteleport to any HG
enable grid. And a test showed that others can reach my Standalone and go
back to their home grid.<br><br></div>I am still not able to go back home.
The message I get in the Console says something like: unexpectedly still
child avatar.<br><br></div>So for now, I just log off in the hypergrid I
am visiting, and log on in my Standalone again.<br>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div> </div>
<div>Many thanks :)<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<div> </div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Unadecal Arado
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:unadecal.arado@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:unadecal.arado@gmail.com" target="_blank">unadecal.arado@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Isis, please see comments to your original post:
<div> </div>
<div>Of the top of my head, you need to forward the simulator ports on
the router and Windows Firewall (I completely disable Windows Firewall
on all my computers).</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Adding your domain name as a loopback alias in the hosts file is a
sign that your router is unable to handle loopback calls, i.e. is unable
to resolve your domain name to your external IPand allow traffic to
travel back into and through itself. There are other software solutions
to this, such as using a vpn while you are logged into the viewer.
Fiddling with the hosts file is not recommended.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I haven't seen your regionsconfig.ini, but make sure that the
address entry contains your domain name andnot your ip address (internal
or external)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>These are the things I can think of off the top of my head, I hope
it helps :)</div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div> </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<div> </div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><span>On 9 July 2015 at 13:27, Isis Ophelia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:isisophelia@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:isisophelia@gmail.com" target="_blank">isisophelia@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div>Anyone running diva as standalone HG enabled in own PC? I hope
you have a solution for my problem.<br></div>
<div><br>System: Windows 8.1<br>Diva (OpenSim 0.8.1 post-fixes) Added
5/26/201<br></div>
<div>Mowes: for mysql + php + apache<br></div>
<div>Windows Firewall: Inbound rules to open ports TCP + UDP
9100-9106<br></div></div></blockquote></span>
<div>===> Also needs to forward 9250-9255 </div><span>
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<div>Router: forwarding ports TCP + UDP
9100-9106</div></div></blockquote></span>
<div>===> Also needs to forward 9250-9255 </div><span>
<div> </div>
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<div>DynDNS: noip with installed updater software in this pc<br></div>
<div> </div>
<div>Diva installation and viewer in the same LAN PC<br></div>
<div>hosts: added in the hosts file this line:
127.0.0.1 <a href="http://arcanavirtual.noip.me" target="_blank">arcanavirtual.noip.me</a></div></div></blockquote></span>
<div>===> Adding a loopback to localhost (127.0.0.1) as the domain
name can be problematic.</div>
<div>
<div>
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<div>Name of the Standalone: Arcana Magic<br>With login url: <a href="http://arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100/" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100/" target="_blank">http://arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100/</a><br><br></div>
<div>Set Home Position in the default region.<br></div>
<div> </div>
<div>I can log to my standalone. <br></div>
<div>I can teleport to different other HG grids (have tested
Metropolis, OsGrid, Digiworldz)<br></div>
<div>But I never arrive when teleporting back home.<br><br></div>
<div>Console shows these messages:<br>11:10:23 - [GATEKEEPER SERVICE]:
Login request for Isis.Ophelia @arcanavirtual.n<br><a href="http://oip.me" target="_blank">oip.me</a> @
<a href="http://arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100/" target="_blank">http://arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100/</a>
(1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499d0aa06d7<br>7) at
b773f2f0-0755-4542-9772-cad2b9add4b3 using viewer Avination
0.5.0.6219, ch<br>annel Avination, IP 192.168.2.10, Mac
469947894f9e298a7726b4a58ff7bf9f, Id0
f33e<br>5e6cd69709d805b47dabf4089ab2, Teleport Flags: ViaHome. From
region Nile Goddess<br>(2f7ad640-21a9-0e0e-fb41-db1ed7fe9517) @ <a href="http://login.digiworldz.com:8002/" target="_blank">http://login.digiworldz.com:8002/</a><br>11:10:23
- [SCENE]: Region Arcana Magic authenticated and authorized incoming
ch<br>ild agent Isis Ophelia 1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499d0aa06d77
(circuit code 280539<br>970)<br>11:10:44 - [SCENE]: Found presence
Isis Ophelia 1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499d0aa0<br>6d77 unexpectedly
still child in Arcana Magic<br>11:10:44 - [LOGHTTP]: Slow handling of
86 PUT /agent/1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499<br>d0aa06d77/
from <a href="http://38.130.222.165:57688" target="_blank">38.130.222.165:57688</a> took
20094ms<br>11:11:06 - [SCENE]: Found presence Isis Ophelia
1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499d0aa0<br>6d77 unexpectedly still child in
Arcana Magic<br>11:11:06 - [LOGHTTP]: Slow handling of 87 PUT
/agent/1b77be9b-248e-400b-a4ca-499<br>d0aa06d77/ from <a href="http://38.130.222.165:57698" target="_blank">38.130.222.165:57698</a> took
20062ms<br><br>========================<br></div>
<div>Before I had configured MyWorld.ini and RegionConfig.ini
with<br><br>http_listener_port = 9250 and 6 regions with Ports
9250-9255<br></div></div></blockquote></div></div>
<div>====> Which address do you use in RegionConfig.ini? do you
use your IP address or your domain name? It must be the domain name as
in <a href="http://arcanavirtual.noip.me" target="_blank">arcanavirtual.noip.me</a></div><span>
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<div>I noticed that when I hyper-teleported to another grid, over my
head will show:<br></div>
<div><a href="http://Isis.Ophelia@arcanavirtual.noip.me:9000" target="_blank">Isis.Ophelia@arcanavirtual.noip.me:9000</a>
<----- not 9250<br></div>
<div>and at the next start of Diva the port changed again
to:<br></div>
<div><a href="http://Isis.Ophelia@arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100" target="_blank">Isis.Ophelia@arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100</a>
<----- not 9250<br><br></div></div></blockquote></span>
<div>====> <a href="http://Isis.Ophelia@arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:Isis.Ophelia@arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100" target="_blank">Isis.Ophelia@arcanavirtual.noip.me:9100</a>
is correct, since that's your grid address, not your sim address </div>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div>So I changed MyWorld.ini and RegionConfig.ini to have now the
listener Port to be 9100 and Regions Ports are 9100-9105<br><br></div>
<div>Since 2 weeks troubleshooting this installation with no
sucess.<br><br></div>
<div>Thanks for reading. <br><span><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span><font color="#888888">
<div>Isis
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