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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Without mucking up your file systems
      and destroying your operating system install?  <br>
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      On 02/25/2013 08:45 PM, Trinity wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">the hard drive data can be changed as well
        especially in linux<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:10 PM, John
          Sheridan <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:john@pseudospace.net" target="_blank">john@pseudospace.net</a>></span>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I believe
            the viewer also adds in a third safe guard in combination
            with IP / MAC address.  Long ago while tinkering around with
            the viewer logins I remember seeing mentions of an ID0
            floating around thats sent to the login service as part of
            the login data packet.  If I understood correctly, this is
            supposedly the UUID of the user's first hard drive - which
            in fact cannot be changed without physically replacing the
            drive itself (see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Current_login_protocols"
              target="_blank">http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Current_login_protocols</a>).
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                On 02/25/2013 06:18 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:<br>
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                  Yeah, I think like websites the only thing you can
                  ultimately do is ban by IP for a period.  Otherwise,
                  they could always just create a new account, change
                  their MAC address, etc.  Of course, they can change
                  their IP too but this is the most hassle.<br>
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                  On 25/02/13 17:51, Sarge Misfit wrote:<br>
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                    Other than banning by IP or MAC address, I don't
                    know.<br>
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                    On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:51 AM, <<a
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                      href="mailto:opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com"
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                    wrote:<br>
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                        I see there has been a post about this issue
                    before. My post here is two fold..   One is to
                    apologize to the grids<br>
                        that have been victim to this and to request
                    that other grids do not restrict hypergrid access
                    from my grid.. Also<br>
                        to start a discussion about steps to prevent
                    this in the future..   I have been notified
                    yesterday and this morning<br>
                        I have a griefer registering on the Virtual
                    Realms Grid then going to other grids to grieve
                    them..  I have take<br>
                        steps to ensure this does not happen anymore..
                     I have restricted new user creations to
                    administrative approval till<br>
                        we have sort out a good practical preventive
                    measure on this type of abuse. And would like to
                    extend an apology to<br>
                        any grid that have been a victim to this by any
                    of the grids users..  I will be looking at ways to
                    prevent this from<br>
                        happening in the future..  To this end any
                    suggestions to help grids prevent this from
                    happening would be welcomed..<br>
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                        Thank you,<br>
                        Todd Davis<br>
                        Grid Administrator<br>
                        Virtual Realms Grid..<br>
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