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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Or you can simply turn off hypergrid. It’s pretty much insecure by design.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Sheridan<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 25, 2013 9:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> opensim-users@lists.berlios.de<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-users] Griefer issue...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Without mucking up your file systems and destroying your operating system install? <br><br>On 02/25/2013 08:45 PM, Trinity wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>the hard drive data can be changed as well especially in linux<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:10 PM, John Sheridan <<a href="mailto:john@pseudospace.net" target="_blank">john@pseudospace.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I believe the viewer also adds in a third safe guard in combination with IP / MAC address. Long ago while tinkering around with the viewer logins I remember seeing mentions of an ID0 floating around thats sent to the login service as part of the login data packet. If I understood correctly, this is supposedly the UUID of the user's first hard drive - which in fact cannot be changed without physically replacing the drive itself (see <a href="http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Current_login_protocols" target="_blank">http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Current_login_protocols</a>). <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br>On 02/25/2013 06:18 PM, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Yeah, I think like websites the only thing you can ultimately do is ban by IP for a period. Otherwise, they could always just create a new account, change their MAC address, etc. Of course, they can change their IP too but this is the most hassle.<br><br>On 25/02/13 17:51, Sarge Misfit wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Other than banning by IP or MAC address, I don't know.<br><br>On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:51 AM, <<a href="mailto:opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com" target="_blank">opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com" target="_blank">opensiminfo@virtualrealmsgrid.com</a>>> wrote:<br><br> I see there has been a post about this issue before. My post here is two fold.. One is to apologize to the grids<br> that have been victim to this and to request that other grids do not restrict hypergrid access from my grid.. Also<br> to start a discussion about steps to prevent this in the future.. I have been notified yesterday and this morning<br> I have a griefer registering on the Virtual Realms Grid then going to other grids to grieve them.. I have take<br> steps to ensure this does not happen anymore.. I have restricted new user creations to administrative approval till<br> we have sort out a good practical preventive measure on this type of abuse. And would like to extend an apology to<br> any grid that have been a victim to this by any of the grids users.. I will be looking at ways to prevent this from<br> happening in the future.. To this end any suggestions to help grids prevent this from happening would be welcomed..<br><br> Thank you,<br> Todd Davis<br> Grid Administrator<br> Virtual Realms Grid..<br><br> _______________________________________________<br> Opensim-users mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a>><br> <a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users</a><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Opensim-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><br><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>Opensim-users mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><br><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users" target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Opensim-users mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de">Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>