<div>Snowcrash, </div><div> </div><div> </div><div>"Ultimately I intend to, but right now I have a foundation to lay, in the form of an inventory and asset store under control of the user rather than grid operators.", while I understand what you're trying to do in concept, I'm not sure why you want to be adversarial to the way things are currently with content creators. They're not mutually exclusive.. you simply need a technical way for content creators to mark the content as licensed for multigrid distribution and myinventory needs to check for it. Content creators could not, previously have foreseen this change in expectations. The conflict /isn't/ between users and grid operators.. it's about users and content creators. I've heard you commonly say, 'wrestling control from grid operators'.. but grid operators do not have the copyright. Content Creators do. Grid operators generally cannot grant you a license to re-upload the content somewhere else.. the only entity that can do that is the copyright holder. It's not Grid Vs User.. and that's a fundamental misconception with your side of the debate right now.</div>
<div> </div><div>Teravus</div><div> </div><div><br><br> </div><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Snowcrash Short <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:snowcrash.short@gmail.com" target="_blank">snowcrash.short@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On 11/18/2012 10:42 PM, Snowcrash Short wrote:<br>
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Whether to patch an angle of attack is definitely not my decision. If you and the core team are happy with the users and content creators in open grids being vulnerable, then I cannot do anything about it.<br>
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You're sort of right that you can't do anything about it, but not for the reasons you think.<br>
If you take time to think about it, you will come to the conclusion, like many of us have, that those grids are hopelessly insecure. </blockquote></div><div>Well, it is only the single most popular opensimulator based grid you are writing complete off as hopelessly insecure, when the truth is that it can be hardened. Although I agree that complete security would require a rethink about where assets are stored.</div>
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<div> </div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">Checking sessions ids and permissions will not make them less insecure, given that anyone can plug a simulator to it running all sorts of rogue code. It's an architecture that is impossible to sustain. Hence, other alternatives like the Hypergrid.<br>
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But if those are your favorite grids, I encourage you to provide services that make them slightly less insecure.</blockquote></div><div>Ultimately I intend to, but right now I have a foundation to lay, in the form of an inventory and asset store under control of the user rather than grid operators.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Best regards</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div>Snowcrash </div></font></span><div class="im"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote">
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