Hi Owen,<div><br></div><div>I've cc:d
the opensim-edu list to see if anyone has tried a configuration like this or has a suggestion. For my part, I don't know that what you want to do is NOT possible, but based on my experience with the hypergrid and the networking involved, it sure would be awfully complicated to try to set that up on all the various different network configurations the students undoubtedly have at home, friend's house, whatever. My guess is the support burden would outweigh the benefit.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It seems like perhaps you don't really need the students to be able to hypergrid from their world at all, though. If you primarily want them to be able to bring items to and from their sim and the school grid and to share their creations with each other, the Imprudence viewer's Import/Export function can do that already - <a href="http://wiki.kokuaviewer.org/wiki/Imprudence:Content_Backup">http://wiki.kokuaviewer.org/wiki/Imprudence:Content_Backup</a>. </div>
<div><br></div><div>The students would have to create a new/separate account on your school grid to log into it directly (instead of hypergrid jumping), but if they are creating their own textures and content on their individual worlds, then they should be able to re-upload and recreate their avatar appearances without too much trouble. And that would be a much simpler and probably safer set up, too. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Does the version of Imprudence you're using have the grid manager stripped out or just has their personal world as the only destination choice? If the latter, should be fairly easy to just edit the XML file for the grid list to include your school grid and and their personal world as the only two choices and then they can select which to log into at startup. (Though I don't think there's anything to stop them from editing the XML file to add other grids, if they figure it out.)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Sorry I don't have any other suggestions, but would love to know how it turns out! :)</div><div><br></div><div>- Chris/Fleep</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Chris M. Collins (SL/OS: Fleep Tuque)</div>
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<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Owen Kelly <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:owen.kelly@arcada.fi">owen.kelly@arcada.fi</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hello,<br>
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I am afraid I did not explain as much as I should have done (or as clearly). Please let me make one more attempt, and then we can let it lie :)<br>
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1. The children in the project are ten years old. The version of Imprudence we are using has all the menus (and currently the maps) stripped out.<br>
2. The children are using Open Sim on a USB stick precisely so that they can use it from anywhere: from school (maybe), from home (definitely), and possibly from other places including friends and relatives.<br>
3. Each world-on-a-stick is one-user only. They cannot ever directly visit any other child's world-on-a-stick.<br>
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The system we envisage is strictly radial. At the centre is one social world, running on the university server at Arcada. Each spoke is a single world-on-a-stick that should ideally operate in two modes: a) as a strictly one-user personal pocket world, and b) as a means of connecting to the social world.<br>
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The social world is a club-house, populated only by the class of children and their two teachers. Ideally children would be able to bring things from their pocket world into the social world and take things back to their social world. Thus children can make things and then share them. They can take snapshots of their own world and share them. But the cannot take anyone else back to their personal world.<br>
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The reasons why we want to make it like this are quite complicated, and off-topic for this list, but I can post a link to a short paper if anyone is interested. (Short version: Pokemon is a single player experience. Pokemon Arena allowed you to move your Pokemon into a shared world and compete against your friends. Private learning linked to social games.)<br>
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I will try some experiments with Justin's ideas about landmarks. These raise the question of whether I actually need hypergridding at all. What I think I actually need is to be able to teleport between the two worlds. Can this be done without making the social world fully accessible?<br>
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Is there a better approach to achieve what we want?<br>
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Cheers<br>
Owen<br>
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