<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Oops. Forgot one useful information: <div><blockquote type="cite">In the DB, each shape is stored as a new asset in the assets table, where they look something like this:<br></blockquote><br><div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Gökhan,<br><div><br></div><div>I see you repeat the question, but did you try Vanish's advice? (copied it below)</div><div><br></div><div>Note about the "blocked" default avatar, I think it is not blocked by in "pure", unmodified OpenSim server. There are some tweaks with modules like Diva, which block the default outfit. A possible workaround is to create a new shape, in which case everything should be modifiable. Other workaround do exist, but it depends of your configuration and details of your project.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite">Without knowing what relates to all parameters here, a wild guess would be that either the type parameter or (more likely) the parameter 1 defines the gender.</blockquote><div><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite">LLWearable version 22<br>XYZ Shape<br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">        </span>permissions 0<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">  </span>{<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">      </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>base_mask<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">        </span>7fffffff<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">       </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>owner_mask<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">       </span>7fffffff<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">       </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>group_mask<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">       </span>00000000<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">       </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>everyone_mask<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">    </span>00000000<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">       </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>next_owner_mask<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">  </span>00082000<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">       </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>creator_id<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">       </span>3a1b3c48-fc73-4e20-db52-1ca611b2f058<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">   </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>owner_id<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>3a1b3c48-fc73-4e20-db52-1ca611b2f058<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">   </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>last_owner_id<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">    </span>3a1b3c48-fc73-4e20-db52-1ca611b2f058<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">   </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>group_id<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">   </span>}<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">      </span>sale_info<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">        </span>0<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">      </span>{<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">      </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>sale_type<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">        </span>not<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">    </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>sale_price<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">       </span>10<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ">     </span>}<br>type 0<br>parameters 82<br>1 0<br>2 -.14<br>4 .25<br>5 -.1</blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(…)<br><br><br><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>Le 16 févr. 2012 à 08:36, Gökhan Gökçe a écrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br><br>If you create an avatar on opensim in grid mode, it creates a default one and you cannot edit your gender, and some body parts. (etc: boobs) This is a work my friend. I dont care about gender but my customer does. So i asked a basic question:<div>
<br>Any record in database to change gender? or <br>Any permission in database to edit avatar on viewer?<br><br>Thanks.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/16 Wade Schuette <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wade.schuette@gmail.com">wade.schuette@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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    Who ever looks in the database, even if it is in there, because what
    would it mean anyway?<br>
    Virtual sexual identity can be put on or taken off just like age,
    racial identity,  and other clothes.<br>
    <br>
    If you dress like a man, wear a male skin,  and act like a man
    you'll get treated like a man.<br>
    If you dress like a woman, wear a female skin, and act like a woman,
    you'll get treated like a woman.<br>
    If you dress like a robot or dragon and have an ambiguous name, 
    you'll be treated neutrally.<br>
    <br>
    I'm not sure anyone cares what you "really" are in the database.<br>
    There are so called "male" and "female" core avatar mesh models,
    with somewhat different controls over appearance, but I don't think
    that information is visible if you aren't that obvious about your
    choice, and even if it were visible, people mis-represent themselves
    in virtual worlds and you can never be sure who someone else is.<div><div class="h5"><br>
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    On 2/15/12 10:49 PM, Gökhan Gökçe wrote:
    <blockquote type="cite">The editor says, i cant modify my gender, or
      appearance. It is a block in database i know. But how can i edit
      this?<br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">15 Şubat 2012 20:34 tarihinde Sarge
        Misfit <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fubat.enterprises@gmail.com" target="_blank">fubat.enterprises@gmail.com</a>></span>
        yazdı:<br>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Wouldn't it
          be easiest to go inworld and Edit Appearance to change the
          gender?
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              <div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/15 Gökhan Gökçe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gokhangokce86@gmail.com" target="_blank">gokhangokce86@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yeah
                  i mean gender. So what can i do for define a male
                  avatar?<br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">15 Şubat 2012 18:40 tarihinde
                    Garmin Kawaguichi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:garmin.kawaguichi@magalaxie.com" target="_blank">garmin.kawaguichi@magalaxie.com</a>></span>
                    yazdı:
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                            <div><font face="Arial">85% sure that the
                                sex (gender) is not documented in an
                                OpenSim table.</font></div>
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                            <div><font face="Arial">Sex is a subjective
                                idea resulting from the name and the
                                appearence.</font></div>
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                            <div><font face="Arial">GCI</font></div>
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                                    <a title="gokhangokce86@gmail.com" href="mailto:gokhangokce86@gmail.com" target="_blank">Gökhan Gökçe</a> </div>
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                                    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:14 PM</div>
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                                    [Opensim-users] About Changing sex
                                    of Avatars</div>
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                                  Hi all,<br>
                                  <br>
                                  I am using opensim in grid mode and
                                  using mysql database. Can you tell me
                                  how can i change my avatar's sex in
                                  database? <br>
                                  <br>
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