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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Pete,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> Here's a list of routers: <A
href="http://opensimulator.org/wiki/NAT_Loopback_Routers">http://opensimulator.org/wiki/NAT_Loopback_Routers</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> There was also a write-up on using...
address translation or routing tables on a Linux system to substitute the local
IP address in place of the external on the local lan here: <A
href="http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Network_Settings">http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Network_Settings</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial> It's difficult to find marketing
material that mentions loop back. What I did is get the router user
guides and search those for the loop back function. In the Cisco/Linksys
manuals they talk about "Filter Internet NAT Redirection"<B><FONT size=2
face=MyriadPro-Bold><FONT size=2 face=MyriadPro-Bold>
<P align=left><EM>Filter Internet NAT Redirectio</EM></B></FONT></FONT><FONT
lang=JA size=2 face=MyriadPro-Regular><FONT lang=JA size=2
face=MyriadPro-Regular><EM>n—This filter prevents a local computer from using a
URL or Internet IP address to access the local server. Select this option to
enable the filter. This option is disabled by default.</EM></FONT></FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT lang=JA size=2 face=MyriadPro-Regular><FONT lang=JA size=2
face=MyriadPro-Regular>I've used both a WRT54G and the E3200. They
support loop-back. Filter Internet NAT Redirection disabled is how you
turn loop back <STRONG>on</STRONG>.</FONT></FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT lang=JA size=2 face=MyriadPro-Regular><FONT lang=JA size=2
face=MyriadPro-Regular>Finally - there's a very ugly process where you can
revise the hosts table entry as needed. Local address while logging on
locally. External address while logging on remote. Once you're
logged in things are mostly OK while you stay inside a single
region. I've done that while testing. </FONT></FONT></P>
<P align=left><FONT lang=JA size=2 face=MyriadPro-Regular><FONT lang=JA size=2
face=MyriadPro-Regular>- Gary Beck</P></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=linux.deamon@gmail.com
href="mailto:linux.deamon@gmail.com">Guardian</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=opensim-users@lists.berlios.de
href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 15, 2011 2:05
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Opensim-users] Awaiting
region handshake</DIV>
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<P>Hmmmm, OK.. that sounds logical. How do I get around this? Without buying a
new router as there would be no way of knowing if it supports loop back until
its in and running.<BR></P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Aug 15, 2011 4:27 PM, "Gary Beck" <<A
href="mailto:gab4gab@gmail.com">gab4gab@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR
type="attribution">> If you use a host file on the server to resolve <A
href="http://myusername.dyndns.org">myusername.dyndns.org</A> to 192.168.1.251
that can cause the handshake to fail. The server will hand the viewer
[192.168.1.251 + the port of the region] as the address to use for the UDP
handshake. That will fail from outside your lan.<BR>> <BR>> -----
Original Message ----- <BR>> From: Guardian <BR>> To: <A
href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</A>
<BR>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:15 AM<BR>> Subject: Re:
[Opensim-users] Awaiting region handshake<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> My router
does not like loopback, so if I try to access anything by the external name,
it won't work. So I use the hosts file to point back to the server for
internal use..<BR>> <BR>> On Aug 15, 2011 3:51 PM, "Gary Beck" <<A
href="mailto:gab4gab@gmail.com">gab4gab@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> >
Pete,<BR>> > From what you say I assume you have <A
href="http://myusername.dyndns.org">myusername.dyndns.org</A> set up to be
your external IP address. Browsing from outside your lan using <A
href="http://myusername.dyndns.org:9000">myusername.dyndns.org:9000</A> to get
the hippo page is some key info. Now I'm still wondering what you're doing in
the hosts file. If your dyndns is set up to point to your external IP you
shouldn't need to modify it using hosts.<BR>> > By the way for internal
address 0.0.0.0 is normally the address is use.<BR>> > - Gary
Beck<BR>> > ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > From: Guardian
<BR>> > To: <A
href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</A>
<BR>> > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 11:30 PM<BR>> > Subject: Re:
[Opensim-users] Awaiting region handshake<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> Just before I answer these questions, note I just tried building a DNS
server and using that instead of the hosts file, but it did not'help.<BR>>
> <BR>> > For external hostname I am using <A
href="http://myusername.dyndns.org">myusername.dyndns.org</A> and I have Aldo
tried my external IP address 202.155.etc<BR>> > <BR>> > The
internalhostname I've tried 0.0.0.0 as well as 192.168.1.251<BR>> >
<BR>> > I can also browse to <A
href="http://myusername.dyndns.org:9000">myusername.dyndns.org:9000</A> and
get the hippo page...<BR>> > <BR>> > On Aug 15, 2011 2:31 PM,
"Gary Beck" <<A href="mailto:gab4gab@gmail.com">gab4gab@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > > Pete,<BR>> > > These problems are tough to
work through. I'm curious about what your have specified in your region
parameters for ExternalHostName and what you're putting in the Host entry to
point back to the server. Whatever you could reveal while protecting your
network would help.<BR>> > > At handshake time the server hands the
viewer an address to use for UDP. The problem could be that address isn't
correct or the port is blocked (or both.) Since you seem sure the ports are
open I'm wondering about the address.<BR>> > > - Gary<BR>> >
> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> > > From: Guardian <BR>>
> > To: <A
href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</A>
<BR>> > > Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 10:04 PM<BR>> > >
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Awaiting region handshake<BR>> > >
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > I just tried changing the port to 9001
and forwarding that but still no go. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > On
Aug 15, 2011 7:37 AM, "Guardian" <<A
href="mailto:linux.deamon@gmail.com">linux.deamon@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > > > Hi Guys,<BR>> > > > <BR>> >
> > Thanks for the suggestions, I've checked the ports and they seem
fine, both<BR>> > > > 8002TCP and 9000TCP/UDP are open.<BR>>
> > > <BR>> > > > <BR>> > > > <BR>> >
> > <BR>> > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Karen Palen
<<A href="mailto:karenpalensl@gmail.com">karenpalensl@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> > > > <BR>> > > >> I have always found
that the free "Shields Up" at <A href="http://WWW.grc.com">WWW.grc.com</A> is
a<BR>> > > >> "quick and dirty way" to verify that the ports
are actually open and<BR>> > > >> working.<BR>> > >
>><BR>> > > >> I also found that my TOR relay setup uses
9000 series ports and can<BR>> > > >> interfere with extenal
connections.<BR>> > > >><BR>> > > >> There are a
lot of links in that chain that can block the traffic!<BR>> > >
>><BR>> > > >> Karen<BR>> > > >><BR>>
> > >> On 08/14/2011 02:39 AM, Fleep Tuque wrote:<BR>> >
> >> > Hi Pete,<BR>> > > >> ><BR>> > >
>> > When I had similar symptoms, it turned out my virus protection
software<BR>> > > >> was<BR>> > > >> >
blocking UDP traffic. Usually it seems if you get as far as "waiting
for<BR>> > > >> > region handshake", then your TCP traffic
is ok but there's an issue with<BR>> > > >> the<BR>> >
> >> > UDP traffic somewhere.<BR>> > > >>
><BR>> > > >> > If you have security software running,
maybe try disabling it and seeing<BR>> > > >> if<BR>> >
> >> > that changes anything, can also install a packet sniffer
like Wireshark<BR>> > > >> to<BR>> > > >> >
see what packets are coming and going in case that helps diagnose the<BR>>
> > >> issue.<BR>> > > >> > Can also double
check to make sure the proper ports are open with a 3rd<BR>> > >
>> > party..<BR>> > > >> ><BR>> > >
>> > Let us know if any of that helps and good luck!<BR>> >
> >> ><BR>> > > >> > - Chris/Fleep<BR>> >
> >> ><BR>> > > >> ><BR>> > > >>
><BR>> > > >> > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Guardian
<<A
href="mailto:linux.deamon@gmail.com">linux.deamon@gmail.com</A>><BR>>
> > >> wrote:<BR>> > > >> ><BR>> > >
>> >> Hi all,<BR>> > > >> >><BR>> >
> >> >> I'm running opensim in Robust grid mode, and I've been
trying to connect<BR>> > > >> >> outside my LAN but just
arnt having any luck.<BR>> > > >> >><BR>> > >
>> >> I get to awaiting region handshake, then the "we're having
trouble<BR>> > > >> >> connecting" message. I know this
is a fairly common issue, and here is<BR>> > > >> what<BR>>
> > >> >> I've tried:<BR>> > > >>
>><BR>> > > >> >> Checking ports 8002 8001 and 9000
are forwarded to the correct server.<BR>> > > >>
>><BR>> > > >> >> Checked, rechecked and
triplechecked regions.ini<BR>> > > >> >><BR>> >
> >> >> I dont think my router supports loop back so I set an
entry in the hosts<BR>> > > >> >> file on the server so
the external domain name points back to the<BR>> > > >>
server.<BR>> > > >> >><BR>> > > >>
>> I've been at this for months, I even gave up and tried a bunch of
other<BR>> > > >> >> Sims, but none of them have the
features I want.<BR>> > > >> >><BR>> > >
>> >> Can anyone help step through this issue?<BR>> > >
>> >><BR>> > > >> >> Thanks in
advance,<BR>> > > >> >> -Pete<BR>> > > >>
>><BR>> > > >> >>
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