<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I concur...</div><div><br></div><div>It's a very closed mind that sees OpenSim development as a purely technical undertaking. The whole notion of expansion and future directions and capabilities will come from an outward looking stance.</div><div><br></div><div>Interdisciplinary approaches are always disruptive but ultimately far more generative than single perspective vision.</div><div><br>Kim Flintoff<div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPad<div>Where ever I am I'm close</div></div></div><div><br>On 19/12/2010, at 1:04, "Damon Hindermann" <<a href="mailto:damonh74@gmail.com">damonh74@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="844565616-18122010"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">Well said Chris/Fleep. I totally agree. This
group should either be a little more open and friendly or at least make it clear
that that it's not. I find many of the topics covered here have little
relevance to me and I just delete them. It's really not that hard.
But now and then, something comes across that I need to know and that's the
value I find in this group.</font></span></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="844565616-18122010"><font face="Arial" color="#0000ff" size="2">-Damon</font></span></div><br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de">opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>
[mailto:opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fleep
Tuque<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 18, 2010 6:30 AM<br><b>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de"><a href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-users] Google
Earth for the Human Body<br></font><br></div>
<div></div>I'm not in charge of moderating this list and I will of course honor
the guidance of those who do, but I'd like to respectfully voice an objection.
I think the original post is of great interest to the community of
opensim users.
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<div>I'm sure I'm not the only one who hopes to see the opensim community
continue to grow, and a key component of any community's growth is having
communication channels to share relevant information. In my view,
something does not have to be <i>only</i> about opensim to be relevant, useful,
or of interest to the opensim userbase. And yet in the few months I've
been subscribed I've seen several users chastised for sharing relevant
information. It's very unwelcoming and surprising to a newcomer.<br>
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<div>Perhaps it might be helpful for whoever is in charge to write some kind of
introductory description on the opensim-users listserv
page specifically noting the strict posting guidelines. I have
participated in zillions of listservs in my time and I don't think I've ever
seen one as restrictive as this one about topicality. I think it's
unfortunate and a poor choice if the goal is community growth, but if that is
the way it is then that should be very clearly communicated on the listserv sign
up page so at least people will understand that this user list is not like other
user lists they may have used where broader information sharing is
encouraged.</div>
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<div>Communicating the forum boundaries in advance is far better than (sometimes
rudely) chastising people who are trying to share relevant information in good
faith and had no way of knowing that it wasn't welcome.</div>
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<div>Sincerely,</div>
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<div>- Chris/Fleep</div>
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<div>Chris M. Collins (SL: Fleep Tuque)</div>
<div>Project Manager, UC Second Life </div>
<div>Second Life Ambassador, Ohio Learning Network </div>
<div>UCit Instructional & Research Computing</div>
<div>University of Cincinnati </div>
<div>406E Zimmer Hall</div>
<div>PO Box 210088</div>
<div>Cincinnati, OH 45221-0088</div>
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<div>UC Second Life: <a href="http://homepages.uc.edu/secondlife"><a href="http://homepages.uc.edu/secondlife">http://homepages.uc.edu/secondlife</a></a></div>
<div>OLN Second Life: <a href="http://www.oln.org/emerging_technologies/emtech.php"><a href="http://www.oln.org/emerging_technologies/emtech.php">http://www.oln.org/emerging_technologies/emtech.php</a></a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Justin Clark-Casey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jjustincc@googlemail.com"><a href="mailto:jjustincc@googlemail.com">jjustincc@googlemail.com</a></a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Posts
to this list should have something to do with OpenSim.<br><br>I don't know of
many good lists for discussing virtual world/environment topics in general.
One such is the VirtualWorlds group on Linkedin<br><br><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/groups?mostPopular=&gid=744527" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/groups?mostPopular=&gid=744527">http://www.linkedin.com/groups?mostPopular=&gid=744527</a></a><br><br>(which
is members only but anybody who applies is added, afaik).
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<div class="h5"><br><br>On 16/12/10 23:08, Patricia F Anderson wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I
didn't find it spammy at all. It was very interesting, and relevant<br>in
that the link discussed how avatars might be developing in the<br>future.
Are there explicit restrictions or guidelines for posting to<br>the list?
Puzzled, Patricia<br><br>(My apologies if this comes through twice - I
accidentally posted from<br>the wrong email address.<br><br>- Hide quoted
text -<br><br>On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:56 PM, andrew johnson<br><<a href="mailto:rossifan2007@hotmail.co.uk" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:rossifan2007@hotmail.co.uk">rossifan2007@hotmail.co.uk</a></a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br>uh
- this is spam - so someone needs to delete this
one<br><br>________________________________<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Date:
Fri, 17 Dec 2010 07:51:17 +0900<br>From: <a href="mailto:jjwwcao@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:jjwwcao@gmail.com">jjwwcao@gmail.com</a></a><br>To: <a href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank"><a href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a></a><br>Subject:
[Opensim-users] Google Earth for the Human Body<br><br>Behold Google's
Body Browser in WebGL -- Google Earth for the Human<br>Body (And the
Shape of Avatars to Come)<br><br>The Google Body Browser is very<br>cool
application of WebGL, the 3D graphics protocol that was
just<br>integrated into Google Chrome's Beta channel<br>today.<br>To
check it out, you'll of course need to download Chrome<br>Beta or
Firefox<br>Beta. It displays a human<br>body in full 3D, and at the
moment (it's only a 20% complete<br>application), you can move your
camera view around it entirely.<br><br>Detail and take a look<br>here.<a href="http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/12/google-body-browser.html" target="_blank"><a href="http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/12/google-body-browser.html">http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2010/12/google-body-browser.html</a></a><br><br>_______________________________________________
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