Hi Adam,<div><br>This has nothing to do with educators. This has to do with the fact that the sign up page for opensim-users has absolutely zero information about the posting guidelines - which appear to be far more restrictive than other lists people have used - and instead of politely explaining the situation to newcomers, the norm here appears to be to respond to anything perceived as off topic with rudeness and short replies calling perfectly useful information "spam". (Or a sincere attempt to be helpful "pontificating".) A very polite suggestion for how to better communicate the expectations <i>in advance</i> so people know what the ground rules are is not unreasonable and in fact would go a long way in helping preserve the norms of the list. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm sure it's difficult to deal with sudden influxes of new users who may not be used to the particular culture of this list, I'm merely suggesting that there are better ways to keep things on topic than being mean.</div>
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<div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Adam Farrugia <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:uqafarru@fdn.uq.edu.au">uqafarru@fdn.uq.edu.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Nobody is stopping anyone from starting their own opensim- educators list to pontificate in similar ways as currently happens in the equivalent SL list. The current "official" opensim lists (user and dev) are fundamentally no different in character to those of other open- source project lists and are fine as they are. It's great to see a critical mass of support developing for the opensim platform from the Edu sector and maybe now is the time to create a list specifically for educators to cater to your particular cultural norms rather than (however respectfully) impose yours on others when the prevailing one for this list (essentially technical in nature- the dev list obviously more so than the users list) is perfectly acceptable.<br>
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