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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=NO-BOK link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree. And this is sort of what I wrote, if you read it. Only I had links to undermine it, I take it this is what you refer to as “metrics”. The links were warranted by the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I’m actually a bit offended by this statement of ““know-it-alls” spewing their answers” when you actually join in with your own arguments and tell us in a final “know-it-all” way how it “really is”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Whether this thread is useful or not is a bit subjective. Someone has restrictions on using Mono, someone else provides information that it should be safe. Yes, opinions are exchanged and rhetoric’s/sarcasm is used – but as long as we keep it light and humorous and don’t offend that is ok and normal use of language. Our communication protocol does open for this, and one sign of an INTP could be just that. I know I use plenty of it in real life.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So in reply I must say that I am disappointment that you label me so easily. Two harmless (and humoristic afaik) mails pointing out that Mono should be ok was the trigger. I’d suggest increasing the threshold to 4 emails and evaluate the persons so you can target the real trolls/religion wars instead.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think I should have proven myself as not trolling this list…?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(Little do you know that there is some troll-code hidden in OpenSim *<b>muhahahaha</b>* ;))<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>But despite this I appreciate the initiative. </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Br,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tedd<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de] <b>On Behalf Of </b>dz<br><b>Sent:</b> 14. oktober 2010 19:59<br><b>To:</b> opensim-users@lists.berlios.de<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-users] Why not a real OS<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Folks,<br><br>Not to add to the religious fervor.... but there's a couple things that are just NOT right about letting the mis-information slide.<br><br>It's very popular for proponents of each side to wave magic metrics and declare victory in a race that could have just begun. People don't come to this list to ask your opinion about Linux vs.Windows IN GENERAL, they want to know what easiest with OpenSim.<br><br>Its extremely disappointing to me to see that discussion drown out by the "know-it-alls" spewing their answers.<br><br>OpenSim uses .NET as a platform, as such, If you intend to RUN OpenSim, you can do it either as a native .NET application under windows, or on non-windows OS using the open-source MONO environment. <br><br>Among the advantages of using Windows servers:<br> Historically, it has provided better operating performance for regions.<br> Most of the developers seem to be prefer the Microsoft toolchain.<br> There are no threats of c## "subterfuge" by MS ( the risk of these seems very small)<br><br>Among the advantages of Mono OS independence:<br> Wider range of server platforms ( via OS and hardware independence )<br> Like all smaller free software efforts, the best way to support it is to USE it and make it better<br><br>If you select MONO based server platforms, it will pay for you to do your homework on your selection. Contrary to prior posts, many of the popular Linux releases (UBUNTU in particular) are notorious for NOT supporting the latest release of MONO. That is not to say that you cannot build the latest version of MONO, but the "regular" repositories of supported software won't have it. All religious preferences aside, If you want to pick a linux distro with the latest and greatest MONO has to provide I would recommend you go to the Novell SuSe distribution. <br><br>There are always arguments on both sides of the questions that touch the religion wars off. For me, in this project, the most telling sign that Windows is the "preference" of the core developers is that there is still little or no support for the MONOdevelope IDE. Make and build on Linux from source still depends on the old-school command line tools. Lots of people are comfortable enough with their Linux skills to cope with that requirement.. <br><br>Personally, I'm one of the "irrational" believers that we vote loudest with our actions, so I pay to host linux machines for our internal OpenSim development machines, and generally make it known I prefer NOT to pay Microsoft whenever that option presents itself. Your Satisfaction is not guaranteed by adopting that plan :)<br><br>D.<br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>