exactly.. when I build for others now its because i enjoy to see my work out there. :)<div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Tarak Kutther <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tarakk@gmail.com">tarakk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Frankly everything I make in SL ro OSGrid is free, full permissions. Generally when I box them, the boxes include separate full perm copies of scripts and textures. I find that gets over my concerns of people copying my work - I'm just thrilled to see others getting a use of it and modifying it - if someone wants to rebrand and sell it, thats OK, good luck to them - I've got plenty of other Ideas and designs that are on the boil. <br>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 February 2010 03:14, John Mieske <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnmieske@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnmieske@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">
Ok I think there is a missunderstanding here. i'm not saying anything about the legalities of it as you are. I am saying this is what happens.. Again, if I don't care for something to get stolen then i'll put it out there, otherwise I am wasting time to secure it. You can never secure anything you put on the net.. bottom line as I repeat that if someone wants anything on this planet bad enough, they can eventually succeed at it.<div>
<br></div><div>On a positive note though, if you can sue the guy / gal then hey, :: dances :: here comes the money.. here comes the money... hahahahaha<br><div><br></div><div>john<div><div></div><div><br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Michael Cortez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mcortez@gmail.com" target="_blank">mcortez@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div>On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Len Brown <<a href="mailto:lenwbrown@gmail.com" target="_blank">lenwbrown@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Sadly, there's not a single thing she can do.<br>
><br>
<br>
</div>Actually, technically there is. Every writer or photographer since<br>
copyright laws went into affect can file a lawsuit against anyone who<br>
plagiarizes their content and since the introduction of the DMCA they<br>
have a certain level of recourse in compelling the service providers<br>
that host infringing material to reveal what identify information they<br>
have on file for someone illegitimately using their copy-written<br>
material.<br>
<br>
It's probably not worth the cost of the time and effort needed for it<br>
to come to fruition, and it would likely only result in the offenders<br>
removing her copy-written material with no way of getting monetary<br>
damages or recouping legal fees.<br>
<div><br>
<br>
on Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:57 PM John Mieske <<a href="mailto:johnmieske@gmail.com" target="_blank">johnmieske@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</div><div>> three years ago, I started to just give stuff away. I realized there is no way to secure<br>
> your items you try to sell in SL or in anything online social network now days. Not<br>
> enough money in it and pirateers will always.. and I do mean ALWAYS find a way if<br>
> they want it bad enough. The way I personally look at it, if you don't mind your stuff<br>
> getting stolen then put it out there, otherwise your just wasting time trying to secure<br>
> it.<br>
<br>
</div>For some reason I have never really been able to agree with this<br>
particular point of view.<br>
<br>
Photographers, writers, music, radio, television and movie producers<br>
have all been subject to people copying their content, using it in<br>
ways they never intended, giving free copies away, selling duplicates,<br>
or even plagiarizing, often without the original creator getting<br>
credit.<br>
<br>
Yet for some reason when someone fails at any of the businesses<br>
associated with these types of products, the fact that their<br>
intellectual property can (and will be) illegally copied, is rarely<br>
cited as the primary reason for failure to be profitable, become well<br>
known, or help out your fellow man (depending on your original goals.)<br>
<br>
With proper marketing making it easy for people to find you, with good<br>
pricing so that your competitive, with support that makes it clear<br>
it's better to use your direct products rather than knock offs or<br>
copies, with continued innovation of new products and services it is<br>
possible to not only make a profit, but to make a living producing<br>
material than can (and will be) stolen.<br>
<br>
Yes, I'll admit there are many out there that wish they could<br>
create/invent a handful of items and through the patent, copyright, or<br>
trademark laws be able to sell their creation without the associated<br>
business costs of dealing with copy cats and thieves, so that they can<br>
make profit from their intellectual property in perpetuity. But the<br>
simple fact of the matter is, that type of business climate started<br>
slipping away in the 40's and is increasingly difficult to achieve.<br>
Especially in a digital market place, where it is relatively easy for<br>
your IP to be stolen.<br>
<br>
For me it's not really so much "if you don't mind your stuff getting<br>
stolen" -- I don't really think anyone likes to have their stuff<br>
stolen. For me it's more about recognizing the market place, and the<br>
requirements and repercussions of doing business in that market, and<br>
making an informed decision to compete or not.<br>
<br>
On a personal note, I think a lot of the artists could make quite a<br>
bit of additional profit bylicensing their textures and creations via<br>
a normal web site, using paypal, that does not directly target SL or<br>
any particular Grid. I have for example, tracked down an artist that<br>
sells textures via TRU (who has a strict no non-SL policy), and found<br>
that the artist licensing their own textures via the web for use<br>
*anywhere* and doesn't even mention SL on their website. The web site<br>
happens to directly mention Poser/Daz3D, game and 3D content<br>
developers. I was more than willing to pay $30/USD to buy their<br>
texture pack outside SL, and as per the terms of the license I can use<br>
those anywhere (including in SL or OSGrid) as long as I don't<br>
redistribute them as a texture pack -- I'm free to use them on my own<br>
creations, even if I'm selling them.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
--<br>
<font color="#888888">Michael<br>
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