<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<!--[if !mso]>
<style>
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</style>
<![endif]-->
<style>
<!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:"Cambria Math";
panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Calibri;
panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{margin:0cm;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{mso-style-priority:99;
color:purple;
text-decoration:underline;}
p
{mso-style-priority:99;
mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
margin-right:0cm;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:0cm;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
span.EmailStyle18
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
{mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page Section1
{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}
-->
</style>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple>
<div class=Section1>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think I saw commits recently regarding offline messaging that required
a little web code to implement... Melanie I think worked on it? If group
messaging was handled the same way, as long as things are clear on what needs
to be stored and where we’ll happily do the MSSQL side for both.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Personally, group IMs I don’t care about so much as group
building rights – can / could / should the two be handled separately?
Group chat can be handled outside of opensim without much fuss without too much
fuss, but building rights and permissions are integral.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de
[mailto:opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ruud
Lathrop<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 April 2009 20:44<br>
<b>To:</b> opensim-users@lists.berlios.de<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-users] Groups Implementation Discussion (WAS:
Thiswill NEVER go away)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I will be happely contribute
with my knowledge of the MSSQL code and make it work with a MSSQL database to.<br>
<br>
Maybe also a idea to look into offline IM's. I already tried something on this
topic. It is in mantis under number 3232.<br>
<br>
Ruud<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Charles Krinke <<a
href="mailto:cfk@pacbell.net">cfk@pacbell.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Coitainly.<br>
<br>
As I think about it, there are a few parts. One is OpenSim packet processing to
enable the groups messages. Another is a connection to a MySQL (or MSSQL)
database to hold the messages.<br>
<br>
In thinking about "groups", it seems to me that we can start small.
After all, we really only need to make sure the packet processing is worked out
and we can store a few messages in a MySQL table.<br>
<br>
Personally, I would be delighted to see, say 1) 10 groups, 2) Max number of
messages of say 100 per group. 3) Max length of each message, say 256
characters.<br>
<br>
That would get us off the ground and flesh out a complement to our current IM
implementation in OpenSim, methinks.<br>
<br>
Charles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
<hr size=1 width="100%" align=center>
</span></div>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Michael Mitchell
<<a href="mailto:mmitchel@gmail.com" target="_blank">mmitchel@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 3, 2009 11:04:11 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Opensim-users] Groups Implementation Discussion (WAS: This
will NEVER go away)</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>
redirecting thread<br>
<br>
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Justin Clark-Casey<br>
<<a href="mailto:jjustincc@googlemail.com" target="_blank">jjustincc@googlemail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Charles Krinke wrote:<br>
>> As I understand some of the "groups" stuff being worked on,
there are<br>
>> one or two projects in the forge concerned with groups and one or two<br>
>> implementations being worked on.<br>
>><br>
>> It seems to me that the trick is going to be getting to where we can<br>
>> start testing even a small part of a "groups" implementation
on various<br>
>> grids.<br>
><br>
> Yes. I think it would be really good to bring some of this code into
core, or make a clear nomination of where people<br>
> can work on it. Either way, we need a focus for this. Even
partial, non-working or incomplete code would be a good start.<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> Also, as I understand it, one of the issues is that "groups"
messages<br>
>> are going to have to be "stored and forwarded" in a MySQL
database to<br>
>> handle the case where a group message needs to go to an avatar that is<br>
>> not currently logged in.<br>
>><br>
>> Charles<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> Opensim-users mailing list<br>
>> <a href="mailto:Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
>> <a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users"
target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> justincc<br>
> Justin Clark-Casey<br>
> <a href="http://justincc.wordpress.com" target="_blank">http://justincc.wordpress.com</a><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> Opensim-users mailing list<br>
> <a href="mailto:Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
> <a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users"
target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users</a><br>
><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Opensim-users mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users"
target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Opensim-users mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de">Opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users"
target="_blank">https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-users</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>No virus
found in this incoming message.<br>
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<br>
Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2028 - Release Date: 04/02/09
19:07:00</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>