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Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Thank you Charles, Teravus, Adam, and Justin for your input.
At the moment, we do not have any paying customers and its likely
going to be some time before we're able to accommodate such
creatures. Mainly, our plan for now is to simply provide a free
access grid to various genre of roleplayers and then further down the
road once both OpenSim and my add-ons (mostly web and unix stuff) are
ready enough (as well after we have some environments operational) we
were planning on subsidizing the server costs by offering land rentals
in each environment for players to use as their in-character homes.
Another possibility after the fact may be to begin renting clusters of
simulators for others to add in their own roleplay environments. As
far as in-world assets are concerned, we're modeling everything after
the Arcadia Asylum approach where our in-world currency will have no
real world value and everything should be available preferably with
full permissions for no fee. In all for now we're not expecting to
nor are we seeking to generate a profit. However in the unlikely
event that we do wind up generating a profit we would likely be
accepting resumes for a developer! :)
As for riding the bleeding edge (and gosh that sounds gruesome!) going
by everyone's input I'd think for now since we're still building it
sounds relatively safe for us to continue that route provided we keep
in step with the backups and pay attention to warnings on the mailing
list. As well stick to the recommended releases that Charles alluded
to. But, in future once we start seeing heavy loads and possibly
start pulling in some kind of income to pay for all of this we may
need to step back a bit and only keep one cluster on the bleeding edge
for testing (probably our gateway / entry point Ellis) while the
others would remain on the stable releases. Although, be that as it
may we've not had to submit many bug reports recently - GOOD JOB GANG! :)
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Sounds very sensible, John, and the grid sounds like a lot of fun :).
Maybe the blessing in disguise from all this is that better 'best practices' for managing grids and an improved OpenSim
release process will emerge.
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Yikes! Sorry for taking so long to respond. I was so busy with work
stuff that this is the first chance I've had to check my email. And I
totally agree, as with everything in life be it good or bad in the end
at least some good and constructive can come from it. :)<br>
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<pre wrap="">As for attending Office Hours, yes I'll admit it I'm a night dweller!
But for the sake of contributing I'll do my best to crawl out of bed
and drag my pajama ridden zombified self over to OSGrid at 3:00 in the
afternoon. Now that I realize that its Tuesday at 3:00 pm my time and
not Monday at 11:00 am pacific.
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What kind of job do you do that let's you sleep in all day? :)
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As I mentioned in my last email I write small scale database / windows
applications, but to give a bit more info I work for the student lab at
the local community college. For the past 7 years I've been writing
and maintaining a piece of software called Lab Manager which is a
student lab management system that tracks lab use, appointments, help
requests, inventory / resource use, employee / student records, and
payroll / scheduling along with statistical reporting for metrics based
on all of those. <br>
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At the moment however, the entire system is a pretty big mess and is
all but held together with band aids. The original sections were
written by my predecessor using a series of overly complicated
spreadsheets and badly designed Access databases augmented with VBA
macros while the sections I've written were done in VB6 and VB.net.
Meanwhile since Office 2007 was installed half of the system has taken
a big hit stability wise meanwhile the sections I've written face total
annihilation compatibility wise once IT decides to upgrade everyone to
either Vista or more likely Windows 7. <br>
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Luckily though, I do have a plan in place to basically rebuild the
entire system into a more stable platform that has less built in
obsolescence. After my experiences with OpenSim and the bit of
puttering around I've done inside the code base I've realized that C#
as a replacement for VB (or possibly Mono if I can get WinForms to work
in DLL form without having to install anything) along with SQLite to
replace MS Access look to be a match made in heaven for our purposes.
As for releasing the project, I've been gently dropping hints to the
lab heads about the possibility of open sourcing the whole thing once
the new code base and structure have been established and then possibly
turning it into a team effort similar to how you guys operate only
involving student labs at other institutions who are likely to have
developers or at least development capable people on staff. <br>
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As for my strange and almost vampire like schedule, lets just say that
they're pretty flexible with my hours at the lab. Just as long as I
keep showing them steady results they don't really mind if I put in
some late night hours from home. :)<br>
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I look forward to seeing you at the meetings too. There's always been talk of setting up an extra Office Hours meeting
at time more suitable for people such as yourself. This hasn't happened yet but maybe it will if enough demand comes about.
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<pre wrap="">Thank you all once again... Live long and prosper! \\//
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Indeed \\//
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