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<p class=MsoNormal>Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I need some idea how to work on this
project… <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>My coding is back 20 years, I did develop
some other skills and I donīt wanna go back. I did follow sl since end
2004 and was a heavy tester in the time you could email lindens team. But
although active via JIRA the later days.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I did run the first internetserver in the
region at that time, and see plenty similarities in things right now.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Iīm pretty impressed by the stuff I see in
opensim (wich I follow for ~ 9 month) and after I did sell my estates and
almost left SL did decide to put some time into opensim. Since then, I
did try to promote it (since I think we need “user” and not only tech and dev
people) and tried to report issues and put up suggestions. I think that
the devīs did a huge job – but the project is groing, so maybe the development
needs a feedback channel, as well as more tester to maybe specialize on some
issues. There are now common problems, like people that donīt speak English or
have no clue how to use the usual ticketing tools. Even having to have 3 or
more different accounts is too much for the typical user – for whom the system
is created I guess.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I though the way to collaborate is Mantis,
but I need some advice.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>To have 2 examples:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Feature request – collada <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-US><a
href="http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=2827">http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=2827</a>
- last comment was “</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Please post a note on the opensim-dev
mailing list and ask for feedback. If you cannot write the code for it, then
you're going to have to convince one of the developers to do it, (or get
another programmer to do it). I'm suspending this pending a mailing list
discussion.</span><span lang=EN-US>” So iīm even doing a step more and
get some user feedback before. The tickets status is closed. Closed
to me would mean:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>We will not do that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:54.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-US><span
style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>We have done that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Or is mantis
just the wrong tool to put in a structured feature request ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>Or mantis is
missing a “open for discussion / voting” feature like JIRA ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
lang=EN-US><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN-US>Bug report – covenant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-US><a
href="http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=2879">http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=2879</a>
– iīm now activily saearching for someone who has a off-world backup of his <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-US>crashed covenant. Spoke to some
people who had the same effect. To me , itīs a serious error if a object
stored inwolrd is damaged.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-US>Anyway, I can understand if teravus
canīt check that without the original data. But: if I canīt get someone
with a local backup of his<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-US>Notecard, the call is to be
closed. To me itīs a maybe seriours problem to be closed. I know:
itīs alpha software. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-US>Maybe mantis needs some more states,
like “search for evidence till…”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>This are just examples – to me itīs like a
wall I hit. I guess mantis is just the wrong tool I use.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Any advice to handle my will to support
without coding or just consume “as is” ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>And sorry if anything is unclear, iīm not a
native English speaker.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Ralf<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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