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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Heh, the catch here is that I probably won’t get a chance to
even start work on this in the next week – I can offer a lot of advice in the
meantime on ‘how’ to do it, but I’m busy doing some other stuff right now which
has a slightly higher priority.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Adam<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de
[mailto:opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James
Stallings II<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 4 November 2008 6:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> opensim-users@lists.berlios.de<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Opensim-users] Sailing in Opensim<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Adam I am just thrilled that
you are willing to take up the torch and lead the way forward with this :D<br>
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Cheers,<br>
James<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Frisby, Adam <<a
href="mailto:adam@deepthink.com.au">adam@deepthink.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Well, the LSL functions
probably won't do – unfortunately they are very tied to the Havok internal API,
and while we could probably write a neutral bridge for them to the
ODE/Bullet/etc equivalents, it's a lot of work and they still probably won't
behave exact the same as SL's (i.e. necessitating rewrites and tweaks anyway).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I'm thinking at the moment it
may be easiest to make a set of os functions to replace the Linden ones, with
hooks into a generic 'Vehicle Module' for the moment. It would be the fastest
way to go right now vs implementing the Linden set.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Adam</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James Stallings II<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 4 November 2008 6:50 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> Re: [Opensim-users] Sailing in Opensim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yes, Adam, typically on the linden grid this is
done with vehicle functions in LSL. One thing that occurred to me is that this
might actually be much easier to accomplish on osgrid using mono. It might also
help lay some groundwork for a way forward to implementing more SL-like vehicle
funtions down the road.<br>
<br>
I have spoken with one of SL's finer sailboat makers in-world, one MothGirl
Dibou (I hope I have her name right). She has recently done some sailing-related
work in SL in mono (a windsetter, as it's called, that produces competition
wind, and I encouraged us to get in the pit and show some love wrt sailing
specifically, and vehicle physics in general, but have not heard from her for a
few days; the community has been rather busy protesting and negotiating
concerning the Open Spaces price hikes.<br>
<br>
I'd be willing to carry whatever load here I can, count me in for some light
coding testing, what have you. As usual, my regions are available for
prototying/testing/debugging/repros.<br>
<br>
Cheers!<br>
James<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Frisby, Adam <<a
href="mailto:adam@deepthink.com.au" target="_blank">adam@deepthink.com.au</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>This probably relies on vehicle physics - I've had some interest in
implementing this myself recently, although I'm not 100% sure I have the time.
If you guys have programmers, maybe I can give some direction on what's needed
in order to write a sailing boat module.<br>
<br>
In theory it's not too complex (maybe a little, but it's self contained at
least).<br>
<span style='color:#888888'><br>
Adam</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de"
target="_blank">opensim-users-bounces@lists.berlios.de</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:opensim-users-" target="_blank">opensim-users-</a><br>
> <a href="mailto:bounces@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">bounces@lists.berlios.de</a>]
On Behalf Of Bri<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 November 2008 12:13 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:opensim-users@lists.berlios.de" target="_blank">opensim-users@lists.berlios.de</a><br>
> Subject: [Opensim-users] Sailing in Opensim<br>
><br>
> The Openspaces protest by the SL sailing community begs my question...<br>
> 85% - 100% water with a handful of 28 prim boats sailing thru a few<br>
> times a<br>
> week ...<br>
> Jack Linden swears a Xeon class 5 with 4GB can't handle this 16 region<br>
> load<br>
> so he is forced to raise tier...<br>
> Cough Cough..to $125 US tier per region. .(don't barf on your<br>
> keyboards)<br>
><br>
> Where do we stand or forecast when a boat can sail?<br>
> and how can it be moved forward...<br>
> btw: SL sailors do not use Linden wind.<br>
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