[Opensim-users] Issue with Firestorm and opensim maybe

Tue Apr 19 16:35:38 UTC 2022

Ubit,

If that is the case, then something is set wrong in Firestorm itself.

I trust your statement, as you have never lead me wrong in the past, and 
your advice has always been spot on.  My regions are all using ubode too.

We have made changes using "Hover Height" months ago and it still shows only 
in the viewer where the change was made.

I live in the USA, my friend lives in England. Everyone I have talked to say 
they do not see any change in my hover height when I change it.  If they 
change theirs, I do not see it.
I was on LSBA for about 30 minutes, and on one viewer I raised one avatar, 
and on the other I lowered that avatar.  I then typed the email I posted 
here and when I finished I closed down the testing.  So for 30 minutes they 
never moved on the remote viewer.

I did not try using viewers on two different computers, so maybe my laptop 
itself is the issue. I will do more testing using two different computers at 
the same time. Actually I'll first try the same test using a different 
computer.

I have moved my avatar on my viewer to where I was standing on my friends 
head and stayed online for several hours leaving it exactly like that and 
she never saw my avatar move to the ridiculous setting.  I never see her 
move either when she makes a change.

I am going to go to the real LBSA now and ask everyone there if they see my 
avatar change it's hover position.  Maybe it takes a little while I can 
understand that, but I think something maybe set wrong in the actual 
settings of my Firestorm if you say the change does show up in the remote 
viewers.

This has been driving me nuts now for a few months, since January to be 
exact.

I'll post back what I find so others do not waste time if this is a simple 
settings issue with my laptop.

Slow Putzo

-----Original Message----- 
From: Leal Duarte
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2022 4:53 AM
To: opensim-users at opensimulator.org
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Issue with Firestorm and opensim maybe

Hi

     fs quickpreferences hover seems working fine, at least with ubode.
The alt does see the change, may  take a few seconds..

Ubit

On 19-Apr-22 02:21, tringate at gmail.com wrote:
> Need some help,
>
> To test why using quick preferences "hover height"  in Firestorm viewer 
> does not adjust what different users see I have done the following.
>
> I launched two instances of Firestorm and put them into split screen 
> windows on a windows machine running windows 10.
> I logged into one using my normal avatar, and the other using my alt.
>
> I set the quick preferences "hover height" of both avatars to be zero.
> Both avatars now were standing perfectly on the ground. (I spent much time 
> in appearances of both to get them perfectly standing on the ground and 
> saved all changes before launching the two viewer screens.
>
> I used the quick preferences "hover Height" adjustment to adjust their 
> hover height.  As I suspected. only the avatar on the viewer I was making 
> the adjustment on moved.
> My conclusion is that quick preferences "hover height" has nothing at all 
> to do with what others see.  It is a local adjustment only, and does not 
> correctly change where the OSGrid or region servers think your avatar 
> really is for other users.
>
> At this point I wonder, is this simply a useless adjustment Firestorm 
> thinks is cool, or is firestorm really expecting the change to be sent to 
> all server and is that change suppose to be stored in any assets on all 
> servers where the changes are needed?
>
> In short, is this a Firestorm problem, a Linux problem, or is it an OSGrid 
> problem.
>
> Searching with Google, no one has ever noticed this issue and no 
> information is available.  The instructions on Firestorm read as if they 
> expect the hover height to change for all users.
> Maybe it does for SL but I have not been on SL for many years.
>
> I must point out too that my region servers on OSgrid are running old 
> versions of linux, and also old versions of opensim.  Fedora 26 for linux, 
> and OSgrid 0.9.2.0 Yeti Dev    e8735b6997: 2021-09-16 18:39:32 +0100.
>
> I did test it by going to OSgrid lbsa fallback and observed the exact same 
> issue . That eliminated my down level Linux and opensim concern but it 
> could still be a opensim or Firestorm issue.
>
> My guess is that it is Firestorm and the issue is they do not say this is 
> only a local adjustment and will not be reflected on any viewer other than 
> the one it is being made on. In my opinion, if that is the case, it is a 
> destructive and confusing optional command, or maybe opensim is not 
> accepting the change made and it's not a part of any specifications?
>
> I wanted to discuss this issue here in the users list to see if this is a 
> known issue, and save me a bunch of, try this, try that. At this point I 
> believe this is something I can't fix, other than tell people that using 
> that adjustment is useless for anything other than using it to make things 
> look good for you only, or, for taking a picture or something static like 
> that.
>
> Slow Putzo
>
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