[Opensim-users] Opensim-users Digest, Vol 81, Issue 2 - V2 Groups

Sat Mar 20 18:28:06 UTC 2021

Thank you for confirming the problem as there is no entry in the hosts file other than the only one supposed to be there for just about any default OS installation

127.0.0.1 localhost

That clearly makes it an opensim code DNS resolving issue and not a system configuration one as it adds the 127.0.0.1 in all hypergrid groups.

In fact, if you change directly in the database the 127.0.0.1 to the corresponding hypergrid group then it all works ALMOST fine. Problems come up again the moment you want to be removed from the remote hypergrid groups as you have to TP there and remove it from your list besides removing twice (not just once) when in your local grid. Unfortunately, there are issues and not just one. OSGRID for example uses a different group scheme (not V2) and the groups you join there do not even show in your list when back home, not even as group at 127.0.0.1. Actually, the scheme OSGRID uses seems to be working OK at least when you are there unlike the V2. So, unless I am missing some other configuration that is not mentioned in the current opensim documentation, no the V2 groups are NOT working at all properly.

There is no DDNS here as static IP is used and normal matching DNS host names (forward and reverse) are used. This is not a local DNS issue either.

The LevelGroupCreate value is 0 by default. User groups are created and used without issues by zero level users.
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From: opensim-users-bounces at opensimulator.org <opensim-users-bounces at opensimulator.org> on behalf of Sara Payne <sarapayne.uk at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2021 14:29
To: opensim-users at opensimulator.org <opensim-users at opensimulator.org>
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Opensim-users Digest, Vol 81, Issue 2 - V2 Groups

With regards to V2 groups and them showing as 127.0.0.1, this is not
related to the setting in opensimulator. Rather it is related to the
network settings of the grid which hosts the group. If their "hosts" file
only contains entries for localhost then this will happen. For this reason,
all grids which run on dynamic IP addresses then use services such as My
No-Ip to dynamically route a domain name to a dynamic IP address will
always suffer this issue.

A note about the configuration as well. If you are using hypergrid groups,
the "Local Service" entry should be set to "Remote". Additionally, I notice
you do not have an entry for "LevelGroupCreate". I do not recall the
default level but it might be worth setting this to zero if you want all
users to be able to use groups.

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> I have a very similar setup with 0.9.2 Dev and still nothing works with V2
> groups. I have also opened a mantis case but no responses whatsoever. Seems
> like the V2 groups have always been broken and never worked. This works
> within the grid but when HG then the group shows as GROUP at 127.0.0.1 in
> the list. When joining the group all is OK but when deleting it, you have
> to do it twice in both local grid and HG
>
> [Groups]
>     Enabled = true
>     LocalService = remote
>     Module = "Groups Module V2"
>     ServicesConnectorModule = "Groups HG Service Connector"
>     GroupsServerURI = ${Const|BaseURL}:${Const|PublicPort}
>     MessagingModule = "Groups Messaging Module V2"
>     NoticesEnabled = true
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> Subject: [Opensim-users] Sometimes Joining Groups in Hypergrid Returns a
> Warning
>
> I also filed this as a Mantis, but the agent suggested I ask my question
> here as well to ensure that I have everything configured correctly. First,
> here is what was posted on Mantis:
>
> When joining a group on a grid other than my home grid, I sometimes receive
> the following warning. It is not always consistent. I have not tried
> leaving a group and readding it to see if it would happen again. [10:43]
> Grid: Warning: You don't have an accessible groups server in your home
> world. You membership to this group in only within this grid.
>
> I am using Groups V2 on a standalone hypergrid OS 0.9.1.1. The recommended
> settings from OS.org in the OpenSim.ini are:
>
> [Groups]
>   Enabled = true
>   Module = "Groups Module V2"
>   MessagingModule = "Groups Messaging Module V2"
>   ServicesConnectorModule = "Groups HG Service Connector
>     LocalService = local  *;HomeURI = http://example.com:8002
> <http://example.com:8002>
> *    ; or
>   HomeURI = "${Const|BaseURL}:${Const|PublicPort}"
>
> My current settings are: (I have defined my URL and Port under [Const]
>
> [Groups]
>     Enabled = true
>     Module = "Groups Module V2"
>     StorageProvider = OpenSim.Data.MySQL.dll
>     ServicesConnectorModule = "Groups HG Service Connector"
>     LocalService = local
>     HomeURI = ${Const|BaseURL}:${Const|PublicPort}
>     MessagingEnabled = true
>     MessagingModule = "Groups Messaging Module V2"
>     NoticesEnabled = true
>
> Thanks,
> Wes World
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