[Opensim-users] Announcement of inventory tool (MyInventory), mostly of interest to grid operators/grid nauts

Snowcrash Short snowcrash.short at gmail.com
Tue Nov 20 17:14:45 UTC 2012


Fair enough, I wasn't really complaining we all have our individual
freedoms. i mistakenly forgot to remove the emailaddy of the mailing list
while continuing a dialog with and inadvertently announced this in the
mailing list.

Best regards
Snowcrash

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Nebadon Izumi <nebadon2025 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I blocked this because honestly I did not like the tone and direction this
> whole project was heading in, It will remained blocked for now until which
> time we deem the usage of this tool to be acceptable for use on this and
> other grids, as far as I can tell the consensus seems to be against this
> tool in its current form and there seems to be no real clear decision yet
> on licensing of the code, to be honest I do not have much time to be
> involved in this project or conversation right now, so we are going to err
> on the side of caution and not endorse this tool for now.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Snowcrash Short <
> snowcrash.short at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oops .. please disregard this message, it was intended as a personal
>> message to Melanie and not for the general audience.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Snowcrash Short <
>> snowcrash.short at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have some bad news.
>>>
>>> I believe I have found a way to determine if MyInventory is being
>>> proxied by WinGridProxy, but I cannot reliably test if my detection scheme
>>> has false positives.
>>>
>>> I would appear that the OSGrid admins has decided to block MyInventory,
>>> at least that is the conclusion I have reached. I can log into OSGrid using
>>> e.g. Phoenix but when doing the same with with MyInventory I receive the
>>> message: "Logins are currently restricted. Please try again later". Login
>>> worked a few days ago, and works on every other grid I have used for
>>> testing.
>>>
>>> It is a shame really, I would like to have included detection of
>>> WinGridProxy, and I simply refuse to resort to hacking methods in order to
>>> test this.
>>>
>>> So, I'm afraid I cannot comply with your wish to detect and prevent the
>>> use of WinGridProxy.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Snowcrash
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Snowcrash Short <
>>> snowcrash.short at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> First of all, I'm not all that enthused about the BSD license, it does
>>>> grant some permissions I'm not completely at ease with.
>>>>
>>>> I am far from convinced that ordinary users would want to run and
>>>> operate their own regions, I might be persuaded to think otherwise, but at
>>>> the moment, I have the impression that believing all users should run an
>>>> instance of Robust and HG, is like believing that all problems are nail
>>>> just because a hammer is the tool I have at hand.
>>>>
>>>> But, oth. I could see some reasons why a very very very user friendly
>>>> and almost invisible personal user local region might be of some use in
>>>> some scenarios.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Diva Canto <diva at metaverseink.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/19/2012 1:42 PM, Snowcrash Short wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Using Robust as a basis for storing a users personal inventory and
>>>>>> assets (legally licensed naturally) is asking too much of the average user
>>>>>> in my personal opinion, it needs to be simpler.
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope that clarifies why I have opted to stay away from writing code
>>>>>> for Robust.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You seem to want to design a collection of user services that run on a
>>>>> person's computer, wrapped up in a nice UI. Robust + HG user services gives
>>>>> you that, without the UI. You have technical choices that affect how the
>>>>> community will perceive your work. If you prefer to redesign/reimplement
>>>>> from scratch instead of using what's already been designed/implemented,
>>>>> that's your choice. If you prefer to use libomv, in order to force grids to
>>>>> open their resources to you, instead of giving grid operators options,
>>>>> that's also your choice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Feedback doesn't seem to be registering.
>>>>> One final time, good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Diva
>>>>>
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