[Opensim-users] Announcement of inventory tool (MyInventory), mostly of interest to grid operators/grid nauts

Michael Mitchell mmitchel at gmail.com
Thu Nov 15 18:07:56 UTC 2012


imho - make the tool to fit your needs. if people want to QQ about it, let
them :) they didn't write it.


On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Snowcrash Short
<snowcrash.short at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Melanie <melanie at t-data.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 15/11/2012 17:59, Snowcrash Short wrote:
>> > IANAL! but...
>>
>> Precisely.
>>
>> > There is no doubt that the creator owns the copyright, and the user has
>> a
>> > license to use said item. One of the operative words here is "User" and
>> not
>> > "Avatar", avatars have no legal standing, users do. One of the many
>> issues
>> > here is that there is no agreement made between somebody clicking "Pay"
>> on
>> > an object in a virtual world and the one "selling" the object, but
>> thats a
>> > side issue.
>>
>> In fact, there is. It's called the Terms Of Service of the grid in
>> question and such terms lay out the interpretation of the in world
>> permissions. Those of Second Life and of Avination limit the grant
>> of license to the grid of origin. In Second Life, this cannot be
>> overridden while Avination allows an explicit, written license to
>> export items. Avination will support the "exportable" flag if and
>> when it becomes available to allow creators to mark their items as
>> exportable, however, any item created before the adoption of such a
>> flag will default to NOT exportable and the flag default will also
>> be NOT exportable.
>>
>> > This is where I see content creators being in a far better position than
>> > the Record Industry were back in the zero'es, the pricing on most
>> content
>> > is so low that it really isn't worth while to pirate it for the ordinary
>> > user. But ease of access is very much an issue in opensim grids.
>>
>> In fact, ease of access is mostly given in "open" grids like OSGrid.
>>
> I disagree with the ease of access, the primary reason why I started this
> project was that I wanted to try out a new grid, and had to spend 2 days
> searching for suitable content for my avatar. The search aren't in place to
> make it easy to find that content, and why should I spend two days
> searching for content when I have a different account on a different grid,
> with content I like? especially since that content is available under CC
> license?
>
>> The only thing really missing is a tool that allows upload of .iar
>> and possible .oar through a client connection. This is useful for
>> people on grids that don't support user connected simulators or
>> where the user doesn't have the time/expertise/resources to operate
>> a simulator.
>>
>> > This very much depends on the country you live in, in my country I am
>> > entitled to use any digital asset I have licensed in any way I see fit
>> - as
>> > long as this is done for personal use and I have not made a prior
>> agreement
>> > with the distributor to not use the asset in said manner.
>>
>> As above, that agreement is called the Terms Of Service. Since the
>> grid is the distributor, this is a valid and legally binding
>> agreement in any country.
>>
> However the TOS is not the end all thing most people believe, in my
> country, the author of the document is very much responsible for making the
> agreement clear, especially for non professional users, if the creator
> cannot make a compelling argument that a clause is necessary and easily
> understandable then it may verywell be disregarded in any court.
>
> But that is really an aside thing, we are talking about content with so
> little monetary value that most courts will disregard the case as too
> trivial, which is even more an aside, since it is not the intention of me
> nor MyInventory to violate anybodies copyright. It is however the intention
> of the tool to empower the user and to grant the user better control of
> content the user has a legal right to control.
>
>>
>> > I do not agree with you about damaging the opensim community, quite the
>> > opposite. I see two major obstacles preventing widespread use, one is
>> easy
>> > access to content, and the second is a usable search tool.
>>
>> The damaging part is the public's impression that OpenSim equals
>> content theft.
>> The inventory download features works equally well for OpenSim and LL
>> grids, in fact it may work a little better on LL grids since the Folder
>> versioning works a bit more reliable on LL's grids. IMO there is a lot more
>> content theft going on on the LL grid, simply because they have a bigger
>> userbase, where as most people currently on opensim based grids are a
>> different type of users.
>> > There is a lot of free content available, either CC licensed or public
>> > domain, but until now only grid operators have had access to it.
>> > MyInventory is intended to give the user access to this content without
>> > having to be technical savy enough to install and run a simulator.
>>
>> See above, such a tool would be a great thing to have.
>>
>> - Melanie
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