[Opensim-users] Some questions about recreating history in OpenSim

Mon Aug 20 06:24:18 UTC 2012

And thanks so much for the recommend! ;)

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:24 PM, jokay Wollongong <joannamkay at gmail.com>wrote:

> Lolz Chris..... i was busy rezzing something! ;)
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> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Chris Thorne <dragonmagi at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> Hey jokay,
>>
>> - just recommended your grid to Lisa
>> I guess u are too slow :p
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 20/08/2012, at 1:29 PM, jokay Wollongong <joannamkay at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> HI Lisa and all,
>>
>> Just sharing, as I thought it might be of interest...  we (at
>> jokaydiaGRID)  actually developed a historical build with the History
>> Teachers Association of Victoria last year! You can find out more about it
>> here -  http://virtualhistorycentre.com/ . Essentially the project
>> focussed on making a virtual replica of the Point Nepean Quarantine Station
>> in Victoria and additionally a museum which provides virtual worlds access
>> to a range of research materials and resources for students to explore.
>> There are also a number of quests built into the environment to encourage
>> students to explore, reflect and recreate content to add to the build. You
>> can view additional pictures of the here -
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jokay/sets/72157631154100902/
>>
>> Unfortunatey its had limited use so far because of the ongoing challenges
>> of opening ports in educational environments in Australia (shake fist at
>> firewall of doom), but it has had some limited use by students in Victoria
>> and we're currently working on various Sim on a stick options et al.
>> Additionally, we're hoping it will be open to the public via jokaydiaGRID
>> very soon... will keep you posted! ;)
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> jokay
>> Director, jokadiaGRID / Co-Founder Massively Minecraft
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>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Lisa Evans <lisa.p.evans at gmail.com>wrote:
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>>>  Hi Chris,
>>>
>>> Thanks for that! I'm pretty sure we already know each other, years ago
>>> at the FTI during the CADSAGAP course? Am I thinking of the right person? I
>>> was hoping I would run into some local people as I did my research on this!
>>> Yes, I definitely want to talk to people at UWA, I need some input from
>>> teachers and/or academics in this area. It helps that my father is both a
>>> science teacher and a computer programmer, so he's helping me out, but
>>> someone who has done more work on using virtual worlds in education would
>>> be very, very helpful for my application :)
>>>
>>> I'm definitely thinking of cross media, because I think focussing on 3D
>>> worldbuilding could become a bit of a distraction from actually learning,
>>> once you get past a certain point of complexity. I just want the virtual
>>> space to be a meeting place, and to help give context, kind of like a
>>> museum exhibition or a diorama representing a story from history. The rest
>>> of the story, and discussion about different historical sources, would be
>>> in more traditional text format, along with videos, photos, etc. I kind of
>>> imagine that each story within the virtual world would be accompanied by a
>>> discussion page the same way articles in Wikipedia are, where students can
>>> argue their case for why they believe the event happened in one particular
>>> way rather than another. There would of course be differences of opinion,
>>> maybe multiple accounts of the same event. But that's what history really
>>> is - the competition between different accounts and interpretations, not
>>> just a series of facts.
>>>
>>> So it sounds like Moodle would be a great addition to this project!
>>> Thanks for suggesting it. I'm looking out for people I can add to my team,
>>> at least for the purposes of the application (you have to list your team
>>> members and have a two page CV for each one), so if you're available for
>>> that it could be a great help. If we then get funding you can see how much
>>> time you could put into consulting work for us.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Lisa
>>>
>>>
>>> On 08/20/2012 12:47 PM, chris wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Lisa,
>>>
>>>  nice idea. There was a similar UWA educational research proposal for
>>> teaching ancient greek using opensim/SL. The idea was to immerse students
>>> in the culture of the time as well as communicate/learn in ancient greek.
>>> That one did not get funded but it may be a good idea to join forces with
>>> such educators and not only go for the ABC grant but also an ARC - industry
>>> linkage grant.  I can put you in contact with those ppl if interested.
>>>
>>>  Another link suggestion if you wish to meet educators is on the
>>> jokaydiagrid - a relatively inexpensive grid if you want to meet educators
>>> and learn at the same time- see:
>>> http://jokaydia.wikispaces.com/Edusquarelandmarks
>>>
>>>  Another thing to consider is sloodle: an integration of the open
>>> source Moodle educational course tools with SL sims. It has its limitations
>>> but does provide a good way to develop Web based courses with a sim. I
>>> suggest cross media is the best way to go - not just relying on opensim but
>>> do Web/sim/film/machinima - which it seems you are already thinking - am I
>>> right?
>>>
>>>  My main experience in this area is in SL and Moodle (both deparately
>>> and combined) but I am doing a little edu project in opensim too atm. Over
>>> the next year I plan to move stuff from SL to opensim so maybe I will meet
>>> you on a grid sometime :)
>>>
>>>  cheers,
>>>
>>>  chris
>>>
>>> On 20 August 2012 01:18, Lisa Evans <lisa.p.evans at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm very new to OpenSim and just signed up to this list to ask a few
>>>> questions. Sorry if I come across as a bit of a newbie, although I've been
>>>> studying OS for a few days and I have my own standalone grid up and running
>>>> at home.
>>>>
>>>> I'm putting together a proposal for this educational portal run by the
>>>> ABC here in Australia:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.abc.net.au/learn/proposals.htm
>>>>
>>>> My project is all about teaching history, the idea being that students
>>>> and history classes could put together simple sims telling stories about
>>>> the history of their own local area, linking them up with videos, photos,
>>>> essays, etc (which you could hopefully launch from within the sim). Their
>>>> sims would all be linked up in a hypergrid, so students from all over
>>>> Australia (later maybe the world) could get into a virtual time machine and
>>>> visit different places at different times, to see what was happening.
>>>> Students would be able to chat with each other and show each other around
>>>> their creations. Hopefully the act of collaborative world building would
>>>> engage them in learning about history, but I would want them focussed on
>>>> just telling small stories, involving a small number of characters (which
>>>> would be created as NPCs if that's possible, with simple, looping
>>>> animations if not more complex behaviour) and buildings, objects, etc. (I
>>>> have ideas about how to source lots of 3D content, which I need to explore
>>>> more).
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure none of this is an original idea, but it seems like a good
>>>> opportunity to put an idea like this forward. I just was wondering if
>>>> anyone could tell me whether it would work in OpenSim or if there are some
>>>> big barriers to creating something like this.
>>>>
>>>> My main issue right now is trying to work out how you create sims that
>>>> represent not only a region in space but also a period in time. I've been
>>>> thinking that I would have a grid that contains regions in which only
>>>> stories from, say, 1950 to 2000 were created. Then another grid would
>>>> represent the same real world area, but contain stories from 1900-1950. The
>>>> further you go back in time, the longer the time intervals would get, along
>>>> an approximately logarithmic scale, so if you were telling stories about
>>>> the dinosaurs one grid would represent the entire Jurassic era, for example.
>>>>
>>>> Would this be the right way to go? I've been reading about regions and
>>>> grids and hypergrids but I'm pretty sure there's a lot I don't understand.
>>>>
>>>> My own background is that I've been working in 3D animation for film,
>>>> TV and games for the past decade, as a 3D all rounder and a technical
>>>> artist. I've worked on one big MMO for three years that was never released.
>>>> So I know about 3D modeling, animation, worldbuilding, etc. but I've never
>>>> spent much time around Second Life or OpenSim, so a lot of this is new to
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Lisa Evans
>>>>
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