[Opensim-users] Retaining correct creator/owner when moving OARs between stand-alone simulators.

Marcus Alexander Link manupool at gmail.com
Sat Sep 10 07:13:54 UTC 2011


How about a non-profit User/Creator Registry service -
comparable with the Domain Name System (DNS)...

M.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Justin Clark-Casey
<jjustincc at googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 09/09/11 03:44, Cider Jack wrote:
>>
>> This makes perfect sense to me. No reason for the creator to be the
>> owner when the creator might not even exist on the new grid. Also
>> keeps the permissions functional, as mentioned.
>>
>> On a related note though, I'm a bit concerned whether I'm reading this
>> right:
>> "2. Otherwise, if a user with the same *name* as the creator exists then
>> that
>> user's UUID is used."
>>
>> I'm reading this to mean that if an avatar name of "John Jones"
>> creates an object on SoaS, then someone uploads the oar/iar to
>> something like OSGrid, ReactionGrid, whathaveyou, where there is a
>> completely random/unrelated avatar on that grid named "John Jones".
>> This means that the second John Jones is shown as creator, even though
>> they have nothing to do with it?
>>
>> This might be a concern not only for the original creator potentially
>> losing credit, but it seems it might open a simple exploit for
>> griefing purposes. Say that John Jones on OSGrid has nothing to do
>> with an obscene/illegal item that was imported. They could be held
>> accountable for something they have absolutely nothing to do with.
>> Even if their name is cleared with the grid manager (shouldn't take
>> much investigation, as the object's owner name would be a good place
>> to start), their wider reputation on (and off) that grid could be
>> irreparably damaged. For avatars using RL names this could potentially
>> impact their RL.
>>
>> But then again, perhaps I haven't properly grasped how this works.
>
> The name lookup used to happen and still will with old OARs that use a
> different resolution method (OSPA).  I think this was last used back in
> 0.6.9.  For recent opensim, only a UUID lookup is done - if a simple string
> creator name is used then there's no attempt to reassociate it with a user
> account.
>
> I think overly trusting user names on grids is a mistake - after all,
> anybody person could create an account with that name and associate bad
> content with it.  And to be honest, the SL mechanisms were never designed
> with this kind of content transfer to third party grids in mind.
>
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