[Opensim-users] NPC Persistence over server restarts

[Justin Clark-Casey]

You're right, this is an oversight - the uuid gatherer is not yet inspecting these notecards.

Please could you file a mantis with these details.  Thanks.

On 15/10/11 01:53, Gudule Lapointe wrote:
> Well. So did I, without luck.
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> I have a simulator attached to OSGrid and another one attached to my own grid.
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> I made an oar backup of the whole region containing my NPC rezzers in OSgrid (thus, including the notecards, and the NPC were even razzed at the time of the backup).
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> I restored this backup in a region in my grid and… Nothing, clouds and that's all. All the notecards made in OSgrid didn't work in my world.
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> I tried to reverse the test: while the copy of the region was in my world, I added other rezzers that I had made in my world (thus, working on the copy). I made a full backup and restored in in the original region in OSGrid and same thing: only rezzers made in OSgrid worked.
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> I must add that all these tests were made exactly with the same avatar, same outfit… Even an outfit that I made entirely myself from skin to clothes and hair. So, It's not something about rights. I also made tests with the contrary: avatars made only with assets coming from shops in OSgrid. Same non-result.
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> Le 14 oct. 2011 à 20:45, Justin Clark-Casey a écrit :
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>> You cannot just copy and paste the notecard.  To transfer the necessary appearance and any attachments the notecard must be saved and reloaded within an IAR or OAR.
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>> On 14/10/11 16:41, Gudule Lapointe wrote:
>>> What about the NPC inventory? If I try to use a notecard that I created in another grid, the servers complains that the avatar has no inventory and cannot render it. And in fact, it remains just a cloud. Anyone has a workaround? … Other than re-creating a notecard for each avatar in each world, I already thought about this one...
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>>> Le 14 oct. 2011 à 16:14, Justin Clark-Casey a écrit :
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>>>> This is both a design and technical choice.
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>>>> There's no existing technical structure for easy NPC persistence (persisting user identities is not the same).  So it would take a ton of work to create and I would have to predict what people would need and how they would use it.
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>>>> Recreating the avatars as required in scripts, as Marcus discussed, is far easier.  It allows people to do exactly what they need and if a very common solution emerges then server support could eventually be added.
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>>>> On 13/10/11 21:00, Ai Austin wrote:
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>>>>>> ...since NPC UUIDs aren't persistent,
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>>>>> I know Justin said that NPCs disappeared when a server was restarted, but I wonder if there is a reason for that either
>>>>> technically or as a design choice?
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>>>>> I am wanting to have a set of NPCs as assistants set up with MyCyberTwin chat capabilities and left in I-Rooms to assist
>>>>> users. Rather than simple 3D people like objects. But of course they all need to be set back up after server restart.
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