[Opensim-users] Error from "save oar"

John Mieske johnmieske at gmail.com
Wed Feb 10 19:12:10 UTC 2010 

one more point I forgot to mention..  You NEVER delete the mono-common
foldes. those libraries are a must.

John

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, John Mieske <johnmieske at gmail.com> wrote:

> yes the numbers represent their current release from the mono-project
> website itself. when its plain mono-common that is the libraries you will
> need for it to work with that specific Linux. Example Debian has its own way
> of how it interacts with Mono while Ubuntu has its own distribution of it.
> But when you goto get the newest mono from the mono-project website it still
> needs basics libraries. AND once you upgrade all the binaries and libraries
> that mono needs, only then do you remove previous ( numbered ) versions of
> mono. because they are no longer referenced from that point on AFTER you
> reboot. If you do not reboot the info is not 100% updated and you WILL get
> errors / crashes.
>
> So far I have setup 6 Linux Grids.. All with success. But I could not have
> done it smoothly without you guys explaining why the OpenSim / mono problems
> didn't work. I know it now. Thank you guys.
>
> John
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:02 PM, John Hopkin <opensim at jfhopkin.karoo.co.uk
> > wrote:
>
>> And I thought it was advisable to put the extras in /var. Then again,
>> Apache uses /var/www, for example, for the default location of the web
>> page itself; as you say, the rest is in /etc.
>>
>> Sorry, when you say "accept mono without the numbers", does that mean
>> to leave alone mono folders that aren't specifically Mono 2.2 by name?
>>
>> And how does nant figure in this? I have it installed, and have used
>> it sometimes for building OpenSim, although I normally install the
>> OSGrid binaries.
>>
>> John Mieske wrote:
>>
>> > Ok one problem I see..  now I have seen some in the past say it doesn't
>> > matter.. but I have seen it does..  when you install tools and itils for
>> > Linux put them in the ETC folder. this is where all the "extras" go such
>> as
>> > SQL and mono. even apache webserver will go in there. When it comes to
>> > programs you run when you want, they go in the root folder. This keeps
>> > everything nice and tidy. Also, when you goto compile mono, it will look
>> for
>> > certain libraries. IF those libraries are not in the environment, then
>> it
>> > will find the closest thing, Looks like its finding your mono 2.2. So
>> put
>> > 2.4.2.3 in the etc folder where the others are. There is a reason WHY
>> you
>> > want to reboot and that is so the configs will update. If the
>> environment is
>> > set to old style it will come old style..  ( rough point i'm making here
>> )
>> > .. Keep in mind, its like your PATH setting in DOS. If two items are in
>> a
>> > row it will find the first one first. although a newer one is later down
>> the
>> > line. Mono reacts the same way as in all linux environments. Windows
>> does
>> > this too.
>> >
>> > So bottom line, if all else fails.. delete the mono 2.2 folder as well
>> as
>> > other linux folders.. (( accept mono without the numbers )) and try
>> > downloading compiling NANT and install and you should be good to go once
>> you
>> > reboot.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 6:10 PM, John Hopkin <
>> opensim at jfhopkin.karoo.co.uk>wrote:
>> >
>> > > This is where any explanation raises a whole load more questions:
>> > >
>> > > jfhopkin at Iras:~$ mono -V
>> > > Mono JIT compiler version 2.2 (tarball Wed Apr 22 18:50:00 BST 2009)
>> > > Copyright (C) 2002-2008 Novell, Inc and Contributors.
>> > > www.mono-project.com
>> > >        TLS:           __thread
>> > >        GC:            Included Boehm (with typed GC)
>> > >        SIGSEGV:       altstack
>> > >        Notifications: epoll
>> > >        Architecture:  x86
>> > >        Disabled:      none
>> > > jfhopkin at Iras:~$ type mono
>> > > mono is hashed (/usr/local/bin/mono)
>> > > jfhopkin at Iras:~$
>> > >
>> > > So, mono's in /usr/local/bin and it's 2.2. Yet Synaptic says that
>> > > 2.4.2.3 is installed - I've uninstalled at and reinstalled previously.
>> > > My Linux-foo isn't currently up to installing into anything other than
>> > > what the package demands and what Synaptic does.
>> > >
>> > > However, 2.6 is in a separate install (by following step-by-step
>> > > instructions on how to do exactly that):
>> > >
>> > > jfhopkin at Iras:~$ type mono-2.6
>> > > mono-2.6 is hashed (/usr/local/bin/mono-2.6)
>> > > jfhopkin at Iras:~$
>> > >
>> > > The "mono-2.6" script sets up an environment centred on
>> > > /opt/mono-2.6/bin and exec's "mono" from there:
>> > >
>> > > Mono JIT compiler version 2.6.1 (/branches/mono-2-6/mono r150657 Mon
>> > > Feb  1 19:00:04 GMT 2010)
>> > > Copyright (C) 2002-2008 Novell, Inc and Contributors.
>> > > www.mono-project.com
>> > >        TLS:           __thread
>> > >        GC:            Included Boehm (with typed GC and Parallel
>> > > Mark)
>> > >        SIGSEGV:       altstack
>> > >        Notifications: epoll
>> > >        Architecture:  x86
>> > >        Disabled:      none
>> > > jfhopkin at Iras:/opt/mono-2.6/bin$
>> > >
>> > > By this time, my head's spinning. ;-)
>> > >
>> > > Thanks very much, everyone, for all your help. There's no way I'd be
>> > > able to sort this out on my own.
>> > >
>> > > John Mieske wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Ahh quick NOTE :  when I say install to new folder I mean if there
>> is one
>> > > > say mono-2.2 and you have mono-2.4.2.3 ready to install, then you
>> install
>> > > it
>> > > > to the mono-2.4.2.3 folder. I thought I would clarify this. After
>> you do
>> > > a
>> > > > successful mono -V ( with capital V ) then you will see the new mono
>> > > > version. I have done this several times with no problems.
>> > > >
>> > > > John
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:50 PM, John Mieske <johnmieske at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > ok when you installed mono you have to leave the folders in tact
>> and
>> > > > > install to new folder .. you then compile it as normal and then
>> you
>> > > install
>> > > > > it as normal. When you reboot, then do a mono -V and it should
>> show new
>> > > > > version. Only after you do that then you can literally goto the
>> older
>> > > folder
>> > > > > of mono 2.2 or whatever else you have mono ( with number ) and
>> delete
>> > > it.
>> > > > >  if its just a default folder with mono that came with linux, do
>> not
>> > > remove
>> > > > > that.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > John
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM, John Hopkin <
>> > > opensim at jfhopkin.karoo.co.uk>wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> It may come to this on one of the machines anyway. I can do a
>> backup
>> > > > >> by using Mono 2.4 on one of the machines, but the other one seems
>> to
>> > > > >> have 2.2 permanently installed somehow (I followed some
>> instructions
>> > > > >> to install that ages ago), and 2.6 avoided that mess by
>> installing in
>> > > > >> another path.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Thanks for the suggestion.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Karen Palen wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > I have been running the Diva distro with Ubuntu Koala (9.10)
>> with no
>> > > > >> problems, I do a weekly save to OAR and IAR also with no apparent
>> > > errors.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Note that Koala has had an unusual number of "teething"
>> problems and
>> > > a
>> > > > >> similar number of updates. The kernel is presently 2.6.31-19 (the
>> > > original
>> > > > >> Koala was released with 2.6.31-11!)
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > I would be tempted to do a complete re-install just to be sure
>> > > > >> everything was up to date. I have put the root (/*) and /home/*
>> trees
>> > > in
>> > > > >> separate partitions to aid in doing this.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > I actually set this up so I could try multiple distros like
>> > > OpenSuSE,
>> > > > >> but it is also convenient for problems of this kind.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > It really boils down to eliminating things one at a time until
>> the
>> > > > >> problem goes away!
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Karen
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Jane Foxclaw <janefoxclaw at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > From: Jane Foxclaw <janefoxclaw at gmail.com>
>> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Error from "save oar"
>> > > > >> > > To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>> > > > >> > > Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 6:49 AM
>> > > > >> > > Ok i hate to be a sour puss here..  but
>> > > > >> > > anytime I run OpenSim with any version of Mono on Ubuntu /
>> > > > >> > > Kubuntu I get nothing but errors. However I run OpenSim with
>> > > > >> > > Mono 2.4.2.3 on Debian 5 and its stable with no errors.
>> > > > >> > >  Just a thought.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > John
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:08 PM,
>> > > > >> > > John Hopkin <opensim at jfhopkin.karoo.co.uk>
>> > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > John Hopkin wrote:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > Dave Coyle wrote:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >> On Feb 2, 2010, at 11:59 AM, John Hopkin
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >> <opensim at jfhopkin.karoo.co.uk>
>> > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >>> I'm getting errors (see below)
>> > > > >> > > whenever I try "save oar". This occurs
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >>> from any of the 11 regions, whether or
>> > > > >> > > not only one is up at a time,
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >>> and regardless of how many assets are in
>> > > > >> > > that region (minimum is 1).
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >> You have the zlib1g package installed?
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >>   # aptitude install zlib1g
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > Yes, zlib1g is installed.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > Also, I've installed OpenSim on another
>> > > > >> > > Ubuntu machine, of
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > > nearly-identical specification, and that too
>> > > > >> > > gives the error.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > Odd error - never seen it before and Google shows few
>> > > > >> > > clues.  What happens if you run under the Mono
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > > 2.4.2.3 that is packaged with Koala Ubuntu?
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > I'm getting the same error under 2.4,
>> > > > >> > > unfortunately.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > --
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > John Hopkin
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
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>> > > is
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