[Opensim-users] Looking for help reproducing a user study in OpenSim

Thu Apr 29 13:29:03 UTC 2010

"Elizabeth Lowry wrote: I'm sticking to people who can show up in
person for my study because I'm required to get signed consent forms."

Well, if someone is going to reproduce Elizabth's experiment, I offer
to participate in the study - if it is self-paced.

Regards,
Marcus A. Link

On 4/29/10, Elizabeth Lowry <emlowry at vt.edu> wrote:
> I'm not looking for participants in *my* study on this list - I'm sticking
> to people who can show up in person for my study because I'm required to get
> signed consent forms.
>
> I am looking for other people to *run* *reproductions* of the study -
> possibly in a region on my grid if they can't get one elsewhere, but not the
> actual region where I'm running mine.
>
> If you'd like to be a participant, get someone you know to repeat the
> experiment!
>
> Thanks,
> Elizabeth
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Marcus Alexander Link
> <manupool at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Actually, I am interested in the lesson on the photoelectric effect.
>> Are there any prerequisites to participate ?
>> Can participants drop in any time ? Is it self-paced?
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>> On 4/29/10, Elizabeth Lowry <emlowry at vt.edu> wrote:
>> > Point taken.  If you want to do this and you don't mind signing up for
>> > an
>> > account on Virginia Tech's OpenSim grid, I'd be happy to add an extra
>> > region.  HokieGrid isn't exactly running on a supercomputer, though, so
>> if
>> > you've got access to another hosting solution, I hope you'll go there
>> first.
>> >
>> > The setup also includes the Google Docs form/spreadsheet that I'm using
>> for
>> > storing results and the scripts that open it with the correct URL
>> > parameters, so it's not *just* the .oar.
>> >
>> > - Elizabeth
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Marcus Alexander Link
>> > <manupool at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Your 'setup' is a backup of a region.
>> >> If someone want to support you and repeat your experiment, they will
>> >> need to run an OpenSimulator in a network and setting up a region with
>> >> your backup file (.oar).
>> >>
>> >> There might be people who would like to support your project,
>> >> repeating it, but just don't want the hassle with installing a full
>> >> OpenSimulator environment. Maybe you get more response if you provide
>> >> a hosted region to repeat your project.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Marcus A. Link
>> >>
>> >> On 4/29/10, Elizabeth Lowry <emlowry at vt.edu> wrote:
>> >> > @Jeroen:  Yes, all results will be public, but since no personally
>> >> > identifiable information is collected, I doubt that will pose a
>> problem.
>> >> >
>> >> > @Everyone:  Just to clarify, I'm *not* asking for regions to run the
>> >> > experiment on.  I already have one and I'm using it.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm asking for other people to reproduce the study and see if they
>> >> > get
>> >> the
>> >> > same results I do - not only is the ability of other researchers to
>> >> repeat
>> >> > an experiment a fundamental part of the scientific process, just
>> seeing
>> >> if
>> >> > OpenSim can make reproducing a study like this easier is worth
>> >> > finding
>> >> out.
>> >> >
>> >> > I've provided a download of my experimental setup and instructions on
>> >> > how
>> >> to
>> >> > follow my procedure and grab your data for analysis at
>> >> >
>> http://hokiegrid.cs.vt.edu/index.php?&page=smodul&id=34&btn=33&subbtn=34-
>> >> > anyone, please let me know if you can do this!
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Elizabeth
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Jeroen van Veen <j.veenvan at gmail.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> i posted a request to the pilot group, if they're interested in
>> >> >> participating.
>> >> >> Will the results of the research be public?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jeroen
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Thursday 29 April 2010 09:15:26 Elizabeth Lowry wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I tried telling the individuals who answered my first email back
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > March
>> >> >> > about this, but I haven't gotten any responses yet.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I'd really like to compare the results I'm getting from my study
>> with
>> >> >> > someone else's - I've posted instructions at
>> >> >> >
>> >>
>> http://hokiegrid.cs.vt.edu/index.php?&page=smodul&id=34&btn=33&subbtn=34
>> >> >> > and I'd really like to talk to some of you about reproducing my
>> >> >> > experiment. Please?  It's for science!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thank you,
>> >> >> > Elizabeth Lowry
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Elizabeth Lowry <emlowry at vt.edu>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > > Hi all,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > My name is Elizabeth Lowry and I'm a Master's Student in the
>> >> Computer
>> >> >> > > Science program at Virginia Tech.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > As part of my thesis, I'm going to be running a user study using
>> >> >> OpenSim.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >  I'll be packaging my setup, including the data collection
>> >> >> > > tools,
>> >> >> > > in
>> >> >> > > an
>> >> >> > >  OAR,
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > and I'm hoping some of you will be willing to reproduce my
>> >> experiment
>> >> >> > > using that OAR and let me compare your results to mine.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > The idea of the experiment is to measure the effect of levels of
>> >> >> spatial
>> >> >> > > presentation in a virtual environment on that environment's
>> >> >> > > effectiveness.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >  I'll be presenting two lessons -- one on the photoelectric
>> effect,
>> >> a
>> >> >> > >  topic
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > with a level of inherent spatial content, and one on a yet-to-be
>> >> >> > > determined topic that isn't inherently spatial, like music or
>> logic
>> >> --
>> >> >> > > at three levels of spatial presentation -- as a slide show given
>> in
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> > > virtual world, as a set of posters arranged in space (with the
>> >> slides
>> >> >> > > from the
>> >> >> > > previously-mentioned slideshow as the posters), and as a set of
>> >> >> > > full-on
>> >> >> > > 3D exhibits (presenting the same information as the slides)
>> taking
>> >> >> > > advantage of a virtual environment's ability to present 3D
>> objects.
>> >> >> > > Subjects will visit exactly one of the
>> >> >> > > topic/level-of-spatial-presentation combinations for a set
>> >> >> > > period
>> >> >> > > of
>> >> >> > > time and their learning will be measured by comparing their
>> scores
>> >> on
>> >> >> > > quizzes before and after visiting.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > The question I'm hoping to answer is: How much effort is really
>> >> worth
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> > > in the construction of a virtual learning environment?  And does
>> >> this
>> >> >> > > level of effort vary between topics that are inherently spatial
>> and
>> >> >> ones
>> >> >> > > that aren't?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >  If the full-3D versions of the learning environments in the
>> study
>> >> >> > > lead
>> >> >> > >  to
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > the greatest improvements in quiz scores, it'll indicate that
>> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> greater
>> >> >> > > amount of effort required to build such environments pays off in
>> >> >> > > better
>> >> >> > > learning.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Obviously, more work would need to be done in the future,
>> whatever
>> >> the
>> >> >> > > results of this study -- but to get solid results on this study,
>> >> >> > > I'd
>> >> >> like
>> >> >> > > your help.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Is anyone on this list in a position to run a user study in
>> OpenSim
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> > > 30 or more participants by mid to late April?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Thank you,
>> >> >> > > Elizabeth Lowry
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