[Opensim-users] Any plans on supporting the display of web
Daniel
dt11 at gmx.net
Wed Sep 16 12:25:33 UTC 2009
Thanks for your links. The idea of my solution is to improve the virtual
browser from the Sloodle project. They use a virtual mouse for
navigation on their texture. My idea is to use the desktop mouse instead
of a virtual mouse to improve the handling and controlling of the
virtual browser. With the help of the script function
"lldetectedTouchUV()" it is possible to get the coordinates of the mouse
device when a user clicks on a texture. With that help it is no problem
to detect if a link on a webpage is selected or not (or something
similar). That's the main difference between my implementation and the
webbrowser control of the Sloodle project. Furthermore, I think that the
sloodle community wants to integrate their concepts into OpenSim, but
I'm not sure about their current status. It seems to me that it is not
that easy to get it work into OpenSim. If there is anybody who could
spend a little time to give it a try or to get some more information
about that I would be happy to hear something about that. Within the
world of Croquet you can realize co-browsing, app-sharing and direct
connection between different worlds. Some months ago, I've downloaded
Croquet to get an idea how it works, but with no success. For me, it's
an secret how they realize their "gates" in world and if it is possible
to get something similar working in OpenSim. If we could so, a few
problems would be done. Until then I'm trying to improve my solution to
get it work, since there are some tiny problems. If I get something new
I will tell you ;-) --- Daniel From: "Olli Aro" <olli_aro at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Any plans on supporting the display of web
To: <opensim-users at lists.berlios.de> Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sloodle project also has
something similar. Initially that is developed for Second Life (and I
have not tested it in OpenSim), but cannot see why it would not also
work there. The link to that project is here:
http://www.sloodle.org/browser/get.php Regards, Olli From:
opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
[mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Fish Kungfu
Sent: 16 September 2009 12:05 To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] Any plans on supporting the display of web
Daniel... Glad to hear you are working on this. I searched the OpenSim
email archives and only found one reference to Open Croquet
(opencroquet.org). Open Croquet is another 3D world development
environment. The only reason I mention it is because it says on their
site they they support in-world web-browsing and I thought you might get
some ideas or inspiration by seeing what they've done (without violating
their licensing etc). The in-world web browsing is accomplished via a
module called "Croquet Collaborative"
(http://www.opencroquet.org/index.php/Croquet_Collaborative). Sadly the
zip file link didn't work for me. Anyways, I hope this helps some,
without sending you on a wild goose chase. :-) ~~Fish~~ On Wed, Sep 16,
2009 at 2:57 AM, Daniel <dt11 at gmx.net> wrote: At the moment, I'm trying
to "expand" the web functionality of OpenSim by integrating a webbrowser
control. With the help of that control the user would be able to
interact on a webpage displayed on a texture by sending the coordinates
of his mouse to that control. Furthermore, an instance of the Internet
Explorer running in the background could be used with these coords to
manage different user interactions like link forwarding or editing form
fields. As a result the updated webpage is rendered with the
IElementRenderer to a temporary image file that is send back to the
texture in OpenSim. I know that this solution is limited in various ways
(and is not compatible with *nix servers) but it is one possibility to
go apart from picidae.net and get independent. For me, it is a first
step to achieve a separate webbrowser control in OpenSim. -DAniel
2009/9/14 Robert Klein <rtkwebman at gmail.com>
>> > >
>> > > Really? You mean under mono like OpenSim does? Never thought about that
>>
and
>> > > I
>> > > did not see any docs about it. Unfortunately that still leaves me with
>>
the
>> > > over the top rendering requirements to really do RealXtend justice.
>> > >
>> > > -Robert
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Jeroen van Veen wrote:
>>
> >
>
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > "I don't want to go the route of realxtend due to it not running on
>>>>
a*nix
>>>> >> > > server"
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > It does run fine on linux servers. :-)
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > > On Friday 11 September 2009 17:43:05 Robert Klein wrote:
>>>>
>> >>
>>
>>>>>> >>> > >> Hey Charles,
>>>>>> >>> > >> What about being able to display an actual web page in realtime
>>>>>>
like the
>>>>>> >>> > >> realxtend viewer does? I have several of the static "web page on a
>>>>>>
prim"
>>>>>> >>> > >> boards using picidai.net running on my company's internal opensim,
>>>>>>
but
>>>>>> >>> > >> after playing with the functionality of realxtend.. well what we
>>>>>>
have
>>> >>>
>>>
>> > > in
>>
> >
>
>>>>>> >>> > >> opensim does not compare. In this day and age having the ability
>>>>>>
to at
>>>>>> >>> > >> least view a functioning web page in real time and see it updating
>>>>>>
is
>>>>>> >>> > >> crucial to business/educational users. Being able to interact with
>>>>>>
that
>>>>>> >>> > >> web page would be incredible. VNC would be cool too.
>>>>>> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>> > >> I know there are plenty of work arounds for emulating this
>>>>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>> > > functionality,
>>
> >
>
>>>>>> >>> > >> it would be great to just have it built-in. I don't want to go the
>>>>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>> > > route
>>
> >
>
>>>>>> >>> > >> of realxtend due to it not running on a*nix server, plus different
>>>>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>> > > users
>>
> >
>
>>>>>> >>> > >> with different graphics cards get much different experiences.
>>>>>> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>> > >> Is anyone even working on this kind of functionality in
>>>>>>
opensim/hippo?
>>>>>> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>> > >> -Robert
>>>>>> >>> > >>
>>>>>> >>> > >> Charles Krinke wrote:
>>>>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > Well, web pages on a prim are not necessarily a characteristic
>>>>>>>>
of the
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > client.
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > What we have been doing for the last couple of years is
>>>>>>>>
displaying web
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > pages on prims in OpenSim and using an external helping web site
>>>>>>>>
for
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > picture formatting such as picidai.net.
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > There are a series of prims spread around OSGrid and the OSGrid
>>>>>>>>
forums
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > have the script source. One of the prims doing web pages on a
>>>>>>>>
prim is
>>>> >>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> >>> > >> on
>>>>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > Wright Plaza and has been working reliably for over a year.
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > Charles
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > ________________________________
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > From: Robert Klein <rtkwebman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 7:30:42 AM
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > Subject: [Opensim-users] Any plans on supporting the display of
>>>>>>>>
web
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > pages?
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> >
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > I know the realxtend viewer can display web pages on a prim, but
>>>>>>>>
what
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > about
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > support for this in Hippo? Any chance of this happening in the
>>>>>>>>
next 3
>>>> >>>>
>>>>
>> > > -
>>
> >
>
>>>>>> >>> > >> 6
>>>>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> > >> > months?
>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> >>> > >>
>>>>>>
>>> >>>
>>>
>>>> >> > > _______________________________________________
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