[Opensim-users] linking regions and hypergrid

diva at metaverseink.com diva at metaverseink.com
Mon Nov 9 04:11:57 UTC 2009 

Yes, that would be exactly that problem: 7391-398 > 4096.
You'll have to move them closer.

I guess I could generate those numbers in a smaller range too.
I'll do that next time.

Kevin Buckley wrote:
> Thanks - I worked that out and now have 2 instances running on my server on
> ports 901x and 902x and using 2 separate MySQL schemas.
> 
> I have created some (different) users in each instance and I can log into
> each instance separately, no problem.
> 
> However, when I try to 'link-regions' I get a 'region is too far' error.
> 
> The regions (just what was in the diva release) are at 5773,398 and
> 6282,7391.
> 
> I seem to remember reading a while back that linked regions needed to be
> within a certain distance from each other (this was/is a bug) - is this the
> problem I am seeing?
> 
> Cheers, Kevin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
> [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of
> diva at metaverseink.com
> Sent: 09 November 2009 01:26
> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] linking regions and hypergrid
> 
> 
> [Warning: this is advanced material for the diva distro.]
> 
> If you're running several instances on the same machine you need to give 
> each one different ports. That includes the HTTP port (set in 
> MyWorld.ini) and the regions' UDP ports (set in RegionConfig.ini).
> 
> You then have the option of sharing one DB schema among all instances or 
> having a separate DB schema for each instance -- again, that is set in 
> MyWorld.ini of each instance.
> 
> If you separate the DBs, you will have straightfoward hypergrided sims 
> -- for going back & forth between them you have to hyperlink them, etc. 
> just as you hyperlink with any other HG region out there.
> 
> If you share one DB you end up with a hybrid architecture that may be 
> very convenient -- a serverless grid. In a serverless grid, all 
> instances share the same DB directly. So, for example, all instances 
> will be on the same map, etc.
> Here's a post I wrote about it a month ago: 
> http://www.metaverseink.com/blog/?p=22
> 
> 
> Kevin Buckley wrote:
>> So - if I want to test this by running separate, hyperlinked, standalone 
>> grids on a single server:
>>  
>>
>> O I guess I need to give each instance its own Port base: 900x, 901x, 
>> 902x etc.?
>>
>> O I guess each instance needs a separate MySQL schema: opensim1, 
>> opensim2, opensim3 etc.?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks, Kevin
>>
>>  
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de 
>> [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of 
>> diva at metaverseink.com
>> Sent: 08 November 2009 23:28
>> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>> Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] linking regions and hypergrid
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Configure.exe simply produces the configuration files:
>>
>> config-include/MyWorld.ini
>>
>> Regions/RegionConfig.ini
>>
>> You can edit those file afterwards and change whatever you want there.
>>
>>  From what you say below, you seem to have enough experience with
>>
>> OpenSim to fiddle with those files manually. (In general I don't
>>
>> recommend it, but if you know what you're doing that's fine)
>>
>>  
>>
>> Kevin Buckley wrote:
>>
>>  > Karen
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > I had a quick look at the diva hypergrid distribution.  I'm interested
>>
>>  > because ultimately I think hypergrid is the way to go and also, right 
>> now,
>>
>>  > I'm fed up with the grey avatar/white eyes syndrome and maybe doing
>>
>>  > something different might fix it (hahaha).
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > I have a question though: what does 'configure.exe' actually do?
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > I'm already running a standalone with multi-regions, using MySQL, which
> a
>>  > few of us are using and doing some building and asset generation.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > I can't use Port-9000 because it's used for something else on my 
>> server.  So
>>
>>  > I use Ports 91xx for a 'Production Grid' and, if I want to test 
>> something, I
>>
>>  > snapshot the /bin directory and the MySQL schema and run an identical
>>
>>  > version on Ports 92xx.  If that works, then I migrate the changes to
> the
>>  > Production Grid.  And I do an automated back-up of EVERYTHING! Every
> day,
>>  > lol.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > I don't want to try playing with the diva release and find 
>> 'configure.com'
>>
>>  > trashes my existing setup or MySQL database.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Thanks, Kevin
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > -----Original Message-----
>>
>>  > From: opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de
>>
>>  > [mailto:opensim-users-bounces at lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Karen
> Palen
>>  > Sent: 27 October 2009 14:12
>>
>>  > To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>>
>>  > Subject: Re: [Opensim-users] linking regions and hypergrid
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Probably the best way to answer your questions is to install the diva
>>
>>  > distibution and try out the hypergrid option!
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >>From the wiki:
>>
>>  > Diva Distribution
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >     * Preconfigured hypergrided standalone. Easy to setup and to keep 
>> up to
>>
>>  > date. Windows and Linux/Unix. Download the file diva-rNNNN.zip, unzip
> it,
>>  > read README.txt and take it from there.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > http://github.com/diva/diva-distribution/downloads
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > I found it very easy to install with complete and explicit 
>> instructions in
>>
>>  > README files. The READMEs direct you to the wiki and other places where
>>
>>  > fairly complete instructions for using the hypergird can be found.
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > WARNING: Opensim is "alpha" software, Hypergid is "pre-alpha" and all 
>> kinds
>>
>>  > of thing work or don't work for no apparent reason. In particular 
>> hypergrid
>>
>>  > availability depends on who has their grid turn on when you try to 
>> connect -
>>
>>  > this varies hourly!
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > For all of that hypergrid is a lot of fun to experiment with, and the 
>> diva
>>
>>  > distribution is stable enough to do development and content creation
>>
>>  > provided you keep good backups!
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > I do a backupPC backup every night PLUS a complete dump of my MySQL 
>> database
>>
>>  > every night! I was bitten once with database corruption and do NOT 
>> intend to
>>
>>  > lose my work again!
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Good Luck and have fun!
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > Karen
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  > --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Ken Grunke <kenearlg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  >
>>
>>  >> From: Ken Grunke <kenearlg at gmail.com>
>>
>>  >> Subject: [Opensim-users] linking regions and hypergrid
>>
>>  >> To: opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>>
>>  >> Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 12:15 AM
>>
>>  >> Is the link-region command from the
>>
>>  >> console in a standalone necessary to
>>
>>  >> hypergrid from the SA to, say, a region in OSGrid for
>>
>>  >> example?
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> And is the link-region command needed the other way? From
>>
>>  >> the grid
>>
>>  >> region to the standalone, that is, to be able to hypergrid
>>
>>  >> back to the SA?
>>
>>  >> 
>>
>>  >> Ken Grunke aka Key Gruin
>>
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