[Opensim-users] "Save OAR" stopping since r9700

BlueWall Slade bluewall.slade at gmail.com
Sat May 30 07:36:06 UTC 2009 

Rev 9603
http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=3741

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:45 PM, BlueWall Slade <bluewall.slade at gmail.com>wrote:

> Justin - I am setting http://opensimulator.org/mantis/view.php?id=3741up a
> local grid on 9395 and working up from there.
>
> Thanks!
> BlueWall
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Justin Clark-Casey <
> jjustincc at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> The most helpful thing is if you could go backwards from r9573 on Europa
>> until the problem goes away.  And then slowly
>> inch forwards until it reappears, so we know which revision number the
>> issue is associated with.
>>
>> Charles Krinke wrote:
>> > I tried with r9573 this morning to do a "save oar <oarFileName> and here
>> > is my observation:
>> >
>> > First on ckTai which is essentially a blank region.
>> > Region (ckTai) # save oar ckTai0529
>> > 18:16:09 - [ARCHIVER]: Writing archive for region ckTai to ckTai0529
>> > 18:16:09 - [ARCHIVER]: 0 scene objects to serialize requiring save of 0
>> > assets
>> > 18:16:09 - [ARCHIVER]: AssetsRequest executed looking for 0 assets
>> > 18:16:09 - [ARCHIVER]: Creating archive file.  This may take some time.
>> > 18:16:09 - [ARCHIVER]: Added control file to archive.
>> > 18:16:09 - [ARCHIVER]: Added region settings to archive.
>> > 18:16:10 - [ARCHIVER]: Added terrain information to archive.
>> > 18:16:10 - [ARCHIVER]: Added scene objects to archive.
>> > 18:16:10 - [ARCHIVER]: Wrote out OpenSimulator archive for ckTai
>> > Region (ckTai) # show version
>> > Version: OpenSimulator Server  0.6.4.9573  (interface version 3)
>> >
>> > Then on Europa which has pushing 1000 prims. What is interesting about
>> > Europa is that the first line (in bold) printed out immediately and then
>> > there is no response to console. The line below is 40 minutes later and
>> > there is still no console response.
>> >
>> >
>> > Region (Europa) # save oar Europa0529
>> > 18:18:03 - [ARCHIVER]: Writing archive for region Europa to Europa0529
>> > 18:31:43 - DIAGNOSTICS
>> >
>> > Time now is 5/29/2009 6:31:43 PM
>> > Server has been running since Tuesday, 5/19/2009 2:31:42 AM
>> > That is an elapsed time of 10.16:00:00.4956310
>> >
>> > ASSET STATISTICS
>> > Asset cache contains        1 assets
>> > Latest asset request time after cache miss: 0s
>> > Blocked client requests for missing textures: 0
>> > Asset service request failures: 0
>> >
>> > CONNECTION STATISTICS
>> > Abnormal client thread terminations: 0
>> >
>> > INVENTORY STATISTICS
>> > Initial inventory caching failures: 0
>> >
>> > FRAME STATISTICS
>> > Dilatn  SimFPS  PhyFPS  AgntUp  RootAg  ChldAg  Prims   AtvPrm  AtvScr
>> > ScrLPS
>> >   0.00       0     0.0     0.0       0       1      48       1
>> > 0       0
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > *From:* Justin Clark-Casey <jjustincc at googlemail.com>
>> > *To:* opensim-users at lists.berlios.de
>> > *Sent:* Friday, May 29, 2009 9:01:37 AM
>> > *Subject:* Re: [Opensim-users] "Save OAR" stopping since r9700
>> >
>> > The data that we (the developers) really need is the exact revision
>> > between r9561 to r9700 on which this started
>> > failing.  I suggest a divide an conquer approach (see if the problem
>> > occurs on r9641, if not, then try r9670, etc.).
>> > Then that information should be put in a mantis (or an existing one, in
>> > which case I'll need to know the number).
>> >
>> > John Hopkin wrote:
>> >  > Interesting - thanks (to both of you).
>> >  >
>> >  > I'm not what other information is relevant, but here's some:
>> >  >
>> >  > 1. For prims counts, they are two of the largest regions among the
>> >  > seven, marked with asterisks here:
>> >  >
>> >  > 2889
>> >  > 2717*
>> >  >  858*
>> >  >  526
>> >  >  257
>> >  >  195
>> >  >    3
>> >  >
>> >  > 2. In total data size, they're the two of largest, as measured by the
>> >  > size of the last good backup:
>> >  >
>> >  > 140M*
>> >  >  31M
>> >  >  23M*
>> >  >  7M
>> >  >  5M
>> >  >  4M
>> >  >  0.5M
>> >  >
>> >  > 3. Regarding terrain, as well as location on the grid, they're not
>> >  > unusual; although they're adjacent to each other, all seven are
>> >  > located contiguously and contain a mix of elevations.
>> >  >
>> >  > 4. They could well be the regions with the most scripts; I don't know
>> >  > how I can find that out without a manual audit in-world.
>> >  >
>> >  > There are four other regions, not normally loaded, used occasionally
>> >  > as sandboxes and storage areas.  I don't yet know if they're affected
>> >  > by the bug.
>> >  >
>> >  > Hope this gives some idea, and maybe helps.  If you want to know
>> >  > anything else, please ask.
>> >  >
>> >  > John
>> >  >
>> >  > BlueWall Slade wrote:
>> >  >
>> >  >> I have seen oar failures on Linux (Mono 2.4/64 Bit and Mono 2.5/32
>> Bit
>> >  >> environments). And across several versions of OpenSim on several
>> > different
>> >  >> regions. My experience is that any region, in these environments,
>> > with more
>> >  >> than trivial content fails to complete the backup process. I am
>> > continuing
>> >  >> to investigate. Any other information would be most helpful.
>> >  >>
>> >  >> Thanks,
>> >  >> BlueWall
>> >  >>
>> >  >> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:25 PM, dr scofield
>> > <drscofield at xyzzyxyzzy.net <mailto:drscofield at xyzzyxyzzy.net>>wrote:
>> >  >>
>> >  >>> John Hopkin wrote:
>> >  >>>> Since I upgraded from r9561 to r9700, two out of seven regions
>> don't
>> >  >>>> back up using "save oar".  Even when they're the only region
>> running,
>> >  >>>> those two have the same symptom: after a while, the archiver
>> appears
>> >  >>>> to stop writing to the file, as if it's given up.
>> >  >>>>
>> >  >>>> Looking at the files with tar, they're fine for many MB, then the
>> >  >>>> archive ends prematurely.  There's nothing on the screen or in the
>> log
>> >  >>>> to indicate a problem.  This problem persists, and only on the
>> same
>> >  >>>> two regions - other regions back up fine.
>> >  >>>>
>> >  >>>> Platform is Ubuntu Linux (Jaunty), Mono 2.2, MySQL 5.0; all seven
>> >  >>>> regions run under one instance of OpenSim.exe.
>> >  >>>>
>> >  >>> my not actually be the issue, but mono 2.2 has a bad reputation.
>> 2.0.1
>> >  >>> seems to be quite stable, 2.4 is also not too bad.
>> >  >>>
>> >  >>>    dirk
>> >  >>>> Any ideas?  Thanks in advance.
>> >  >>>>
>> >  >>>
>> >  >>> --
>> >  >>> dr dirk husemann ---- math & computer science ---- ibm zurich
>> > research lab
>> >  >>> RL: hud at zurich.ibm.com <mailto:hud at zurich.ibm.com> - +41 44 724
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>> >  >>> SL: drscofield at xyzzyxyzzy.net <mailto:drscofield at xyzzyxyzzy.net>
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